[net.women] your Re: 59 cents and catch-22

steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer) (10/10/83)

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>Steve, what are you really saying?  That there isn't any racial discrimination?
>That's clearly wrong.  That there isn't sex discrimination?  That, too, is
>wrong.  I can't understand people who simply want to bury their heads in the
>sand and ignore that U.S. society, for all its good points, is nevertheless
>racist and sexist to the core.  The assumptions we grow up with produce this.
>Changes are coming, but they come over the objections of people like you.  
>There's always someone claiming that it just ain't so: that separate really is
>equal; that housing isn't segregated; that opportunity is the same "if you try,
>try and try, try and try -- you'll succeed at last."
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>
>MIke Kelly
>Teletype

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    I am not sure which "steve" you are refering to, but I will assume
    that you mean me....

	I have never stated that there is no racial or sexual discrimination
    in our society.  I HAVE seen it, as it is usually presented, once or
    twice.   Now the lack of discrimination that I have witnessed may be
    because I come from the land of liberalia: Berkeley & Santa Cruz --
    however I doubt that this is the only reason.   Very few classical bigots
    ever get out of the gutter, which is where such stuff is learned, since
    bigotry depends chiefly upon ignorance, and ignorance is not economically
    sucessful.

	In my life, the most preduice, bigotry, and racism, I have seen, comes
    from the very people who claim to be its victims.  White males are por-
    trayed as a homogenious conspiricy of dominating neo-fascists, out to
    crush, maim, and kill anyone who would dare to dispute "their" rule;
    society, is held in the strangle-hold of such WM's, and (like the racist,
    sexist, bigots "they" are) will continue to be so as long as "we" let
    them; furthermore, "they" do nothing more than to sit on "their" asses
    while "we" do all the work.

	This is all well and good for me, I do not begrudge anybody his or
    her unfounded opinions.  After all, we all have preduices, no matter how
    hard we try not to. (For example, the comic-strip jokes about hackers:
    immature, unable to face reality, can't deal with people, more machine
    than man, etc.)   However, I would like to make the following observation:

	Bigotry should be opposed, not because it sometimes hurts those
	against which it is directed, but rather because (like ignorance)
	it invariably hurts the bigot.

	Certainly there is racism and sexism in the real world.  I would be
    the last to deny it.  But that discrimination is considerably less than
    what is perceived, and more often than not, offset by governmental
    reverse discrimination.  However, by propigating the myth of "its a
    racist/sexist world out there", radicals do more to hurt their cause
    than anything the KKK could think of.  Because, THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN
    TELLING A CHILD THAT THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING, IS TO TELL THEM THAT NO
    MATTER HOW HOW HARD THEY TRY, THEY WILL NEVER SUCCEED (because the "racist"
    society won't let them).

	Thus, we show the base of the vicious circle:  The more people believe
    they can't or won't be allowed to do something, the less they try.  And
    the less they try, the less will they do.  This gives very good
    documentation of the "discrimination", and furthers the impression.
    Statistics also come out showing the results of the lack of resolve to
    try, and this bolsters the case of the few true bigots that do remain.

    (I could go into a whole hell of a lot of examples of the above, but
     my message is too long as it is......)

Steven Maurer