[net.women] net.men???

ken@ihuxq.UUCP (01/18/84)

This rather silly suggestion to create net.men (or its logical
equivalent) reminds me of a confrontation during my early years
at the University of Wisconsin (back when "Go Big Red" had an
altogether different meaning).  Some of us feminists were trying
to get the administration to sanction a women's studies course.
The bureaucratic response was, "Well, if we do that, we'd have to
allow men's studies, too."  At which point a very wise woman
shouted, "You already have it.  In fact you have a whole department.
You call it 'history'."

Jesus H Christ!  We men strut our stuff, some would say throw it,
over the whole world, including 99% of the net.  Since when have
we been lacking for a forum?  And what would we use another one for? 
The usual, I suppose:  beating each other up (metaphorically,
of course).  We do it so well.
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gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) (01/20/84)

	From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow)
	
	                                Some of us feminists were trying
	to get the administration to sanction a women's studies course.
	The bureaucratic response was, "Well, if we do that, we'd have to
	allow men's studies, too."  At which point a very wise woman
	shouted, "You already have it.  In fact you have a whole department.
	You call it 'history'."
	
	Jesus H Christ!  We men strut our stuff, some would say throw it,
	over the whole world, including 99% of the net.  Since when have
	we been lacking for a forum?  And what would we use another one for? 
	The usual, I suppose:  beating each other up (metaphorically,
	of course).  We do it so well.

Women's changing role in society requires that men change.  While we
are a male-dominated culture, I think that specific issues of maleness
in our society go undiscussed, or (in this case) now dominate net.women!
The flood of articles about men and their penises in net.women is
the clearest sign of this problem.

The fact is, men really DON'T talk about themselves or their roles
much -- THEY DON'T QUESTION THEM!  That is one of the reasons net.women
exists.  I think it is time men did start talking among themselves,
as well as with women, about themselves and their culture.

That is why I think we need net.men.
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Gordon A. Moffett
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