saj@iuvax.UUCP (02/15/84)
#N:iuvax:9200003:000:1213 iuvax!apratt Jan 29 16:37:00 1984 I would like to bring new light to a subject I've seen both here and in net.women.only: the possibility of a newsgroup net.men. I remind those whose perspective has lapsed that the name of a newsgroup is intended to suggest the topics discussed therein, not the readership. With this in mind, net.men would be an excellent newsgroup for men and women. Women could ask about men and expect men to respond. Men could discuss such manly things as circumcision and the relative merits of feminism (which more accurately should be called humanism, except by those seeking female dominance). The point is that net.men *is* an appropriate newsgroup, and net.men.only might be, too (but I doubt it). It certainly would be nice if men would refrain from posting in net.women.only (a title which *does* identify the intended readership), but I must say that's unlikely. Will anyone argue with me about net.men? I know I would subscribe to it... (I am putting this note here in net.women because the discussion is here. Further discussion specifically about net.men might usefully move to net.news.group, a place for "the discussion ... of news groups." ---- -- Allan Pratt ...decvax!ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!apratt
smann@ihu1g.UUCP (Sherry Mann) (02/16/84)
I have no strong feelings one way or the other about the creation of net.men except those feelings I have about the creation of new news groups - which is that if enough people feel the need (or desire) for a new news group, by all means create it. I think the the wishes of the people who wish a new news group should outweigh the feelings of those who are against it. As to net.men, I am for it IF people feel the need for it. My personal opinion is that if it would keep discussions in net.women from turning into discussions about men (as the circumcision discussion did) more power to it. On another point, I am not seeking female dominance, but I don't agree that feminism might more properly be called humanism. One of potential side effects of feminism hopefully will be an improvement in the human condition and feminism can and does positively affect the lives of men and women. However to me, and I'm sure to most women who think of themselves as feminists to whatever degree, feminism is concerned with the improvement of the condition of women. Until women are as equal as men, I don't want to see feminism sidetracked by "humanism", better education for children, childcare, more people-oriented principles of management, or anything less than the improvement of the condition of women. Sherry Mann AT&T-BL, Naperville, IL ihu1g!smann