[net.music] long/varied pieces

DBarker%PCO@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA (Deryk Barker) (03/04/85)

WHile we're on this subject I'm surprised that noone has suggested the
first three sides of "Live Dead":  Dark Star/St.  Stephen/The
Eleven/Turn on Your Love Light form nearly an hours worth of continuous
music.  Surely the finest electric improvisation yet recorded.
Especially note the subtle way the rhythm is changed in the bridge from
St.  Stephen to The Eleven from 4/4 to 8/8 to 11/8 almost without any
seams at all - just the simple emphatic extra two beats cue on the snare
from Kreutzmann.

Also how about Third by The Soft Machine - a double LP with one track
per side.  Some may not count this as rock but I would.
          deryk.
          [You're never alone with schizophrenia]

jimb@utcs.UUCP (Jim Bailey) (03/15/85)

	Well, I was glad to see that King Crimson finally made it
into this topic. I have wanted to get in and mention them, but
being new to this game thought it would be best if I had some idea
of what I was doing first. So, now that I'm here, (and hello to all
of you out there), I thought I'd put my own two cents worth in
(Canadian 1.4 cents).
	As for King Crimson, their first four albums (and who could ever
forget "In the Court of the Crimson King"?) had some of the best examples
of this genre. The most ambitious piece had to be "Lizard", the title
track of their third album, which has the added feature of Jon Anderson
singing in one section in the days before Yes became famous (at least in
North America). I could supply much more information, but don't have the
time or inclination to write a book, which is abouthow much space it would
take up. Suffice it to say that I hope to hear from other Crimso fans out
there.

	Another band which has yet to get a mention is Van der Graaf
Generator. They were an on again/off again group from 1968-1978 fronted by
one Peter Hammill (who, by the way, seems to be on tour at the moment;
at least he will be in Toronto on April 21st). Apart from their first album
which is now quite difficult to find, they rarely did songs under 5 mins.
duration, many being over 10 mins. The main strongpoint with these guys was
the lyrics of the aforementioned Mr. Hammill, which are quite expansive,
bordering on prose much of the time, but still with rhymes and reasons.
As a matter of fact, these have been collected in two books "Killers.
Angels, Refugees", and "Mirrors, Dreams, and Miracles", along with lyrics
from Peter Hammill's solo records and a few short stories. I understand
that both have recently been re-issued, so they should be available at
the better obscure record shops.

	Anyway, thank you for letting me waste some of your time. As stated
before, I hope to hear from other fans of these groups. At least I hope
there are SOME others out there.

TTFN

		Jim Bailey
	University of Toronto Computing Services