preece@uicsl.UUCP (02/04/84)
#N:uicsl:16400039:000:500 uicsl!preece Feb 3 14:17:00 1984 ---------- re:women in medicine having had physicians of both genders, dentist, and opthamologists of both genders as well I am 100% convinced that women make the best health care practitioners..being techinically talented and sensitive to the entire individual, women physicians are not the mechanics that male doctors tend to be. ---------- The above is from net.women.only. It's nice to see that modern, feminist women don't believe in stereotypes. scott preece ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece
wisen@inmet.UUCP (02/10/84)
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inmet!wisen Feb 9 17:02:00 1984
If so-and-so has been to enough physicians to get a statistically valid
sample of practitioners' quality, then so-and-so must be in extremely poor
health, and perhaps should re-evalute the quality of his/her medical care. :-)
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\_( twltims@watmath.UUCP (Tracy Tims) (02/13/84)
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re:women in medicine
having had physicians of both genders, dentist, and
opthamologists of both genders as well I am 100% convinced that
women make the best health care practitioners..being
techinically talented and sensitive to the entire individual,
women physicians are not the mechanics that male doctors tend
to be.
----------
The above is from net.women.only. It's nice to see that modern,
feminist women don't believe in stereotypes.
scott preece
A counterexample to the original article:
I (male) had a women GP for some time. She was one of
the most insensitive, obnoxious, rude people I have ever known. One
by one, the members of my family have been switching to other doctors. My
current doctor, male, is competent and quite unmechanical. Any doctor who
lets me grab the scalpel and anesthetic spray while removing embedded wood
is OK by me. I suspect that the problem stems from traditional vs. new wave
approaches to health care. Could it be that medical schools are becoming
more humanistic? That the doctors currently going into practice are more
frequently committed to recognising their patients responsibility and
preferences in health care? Since the numbers of female health care
professionals being trained is rising, it makes sense (given the above
assumptions) that the proportion of "humanist" doctors would be greater
among female doctors.
But who cares what sex they are as long as:
a) you like seeing the doctor (for whatever reasons --
including the "political support of women in medicine")
b) they are competent (possible subcase of (a))
What else is important? The ideological question concerning the fitness of
males as doctors? Females as chess players? Small furry creatures from
the Crab Nebula as comic devices in radio plays? I maintain that these are
not important.
Science may find out that men are better suited to mathematics. (A postulate
I don't even care to think about) It clearly doesn't matter. We should say
"Who cares?" and go on giving anything (male,female,earthworm,tree) that has
aptitude at mathematics good training in it. Sure, we may be able to predict
the relative quantities of these beings in math (x%,100%-x%,0%,0%) but DOES IT
MATTER?
How can you know what you can do until you do it? How can you
KNOW what I can do until I do it? Why prevent me from trying?
Why discuss the outcome as if the discussion was the important
part?
Tracy Tims {linus,allegra,decvax,utcsrgv}!watmath!twltims
The University of Waterloo, 519-885-1211 x2730holt@parsec.UUCP (02/23/84)
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parsec!holt Feb 22 13:07:00 1984
"having had physicians of both genders, dentist, and opthamologists of
both genders as well I am 100% convinced that women make the best
health care practitioners..being techinically talented and sensitive
to the entire individual, women physicians are not the mechanics that
male doctors tend to be."
This is a very sexist statement.
It seems to me that the over compensation which doctors of one sex
exhibit, when treating members of the opposite sex, is the real issue here.
Society would view it as a very serious situation if a doctor was accused
of being overly familiar with a patient of the opposite sex. Thus, many
doctors, both men and women, when dealing with patients of the opposite sex,
tend to over-emphasize the distance between themselves and the patient. This
avoids any inference of "sexual" motivations, but, unhappily, is most often
viewed by the patient as "apathy" on the part of the physician. It is a fine
line to be tread, and most doctors take the "safe" route.
Dave Holt
Convex Computer Corp.
{allegra,ihnp4,uiucdcs,ctvax}!parsec!holt