[net.women] Sex prejudice and static cling - clarification

ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader) (03/21/84)

Well, I was going to stay out of the great static cling foofaraw,
but having seen how completely my little posting has been misunderstood
(particularly by Beth Mazur), I guess I'll have to explain at length.

First, it seems that "static cling" means different things to different
people.  One is clothes clinging to the body (or nylons etc.) when worn;
the other is when they cling to each other after being dried (making them
hard to put away properly, so you find the missing hosiery hiding
inside your pants).  When I saw the phrase in Shelley Heretyk's original
posting, I thought of advertisements that show people taking clothes out
of the dryer and the clothes clinging together -- the second version.
Frankly, I have never noticed real-life examples of the first version,
but I am not clothes conscious and I do not comment on whether it really
exists as a problem or is only an advertisers' myth.   Female net posters
have already suggested both of these.

Now, with fashions as they are, it is clear that the first version of
static cling is principally of interest to women.  But whatever you mean
by static cling, isn't it clear that Shelley's message recommending a
laundry product to solve should be read by *whoever does the laundry?*

The "sex prejudice" which my first posting referred to was the assumption
that *laundry products* to cure static cling are best discussed in
net.women.only.  As a man who was the laundry-doer for most of the 6.5
years I've been married, I found this assumption funny and annoying at
the same time, and I thought that net.women readers would understand
that point without further explanation.

I did not mean to ridicule the existence of net.women.only, though I was
opposed to its creation -- just to suggest that now that it exists, it
should only be used for topics where men really can't contribute anything.
Laundry is not one of these.  The discussion should, of course, have been
started in net.consumers.

It is not spying to read net.women.only -- the original discussion made
it clear that it was only posting to it that men weren't welcome to do.
I think that those men who posted to net.women.only to ridicule the
problem were discourteous and should have used net.women and/or net.flame.
I do not support sex discrimination in any form, as far as I am aware;
some days I even call myself a feminist, but I don't like the connotations.
This includes the existence of net.women.only, but as a courtesy I respect it.

Mark Brader
(I am not a net.women vulture, only a wrong-group-posting vulture!)