[net.women] Pornography and Civil Rights

mjk@tty3b.UUCP (Mike Kelly) (02/15/84)

     Here's  a  little  more  information  on  the  approach   to
pornography  tried  in  Minneapolis;  it's from an article on the
subject in the January 18 issue of In These Times (ITT).

     Feminist authors Andrea Dworkin and Catherine MacKinnon were
asked  by  members  of  the  City  Council  to draft an amendment
extending  the  Minneapolis  civil  rights  ordinance  to   cover
pornography.   They did, and the Council passed it on December 30
in a 7-6 vote, but it was  vetoed  on  January  5  by  Mayor  Don
Fraser.   Since  then,  proponents of the ordinance have tried to
either draft a compromise ordinance or override the veto.

     Says ITT, "The  civil  rights  approach  is  a  new  way  of
approaching  pornography.  Currently, pornography can be attacked
legally in either  of  two  ways.    First,  there  are  criminal
obscenity  laws,  based  on  a definition provided by the Supreme
Court in Miller vs. California in 1973 ... In  most  places,  the
laws  simply are not enforced ...  The second approach is through
zoning laws that can be used to limit the area in  which  certain
kinds  of  pornography  can be sold or displayed.  But the courts
have ruled that the zoning regulations must not be so strict that
they constitute a de facto ban ..."

     Ms. Dworkin explained the rationale behind the civil  rights
approach to an interviewer: "What it amounts to is that you and I
go into a supermarket to buy  a  dozen  eggs.   My  rights  as  a
citizen  are  violated  because  those  magazines  show  me as an
abject, degraded victim, in fact subordinate me when I am in  the
supermarket.   They  change my civil status and make it different
from yours, because you're a man and I'm  a  woman.   You're  not
allowed to do that.  That's what civil rights is all about."

     The ordinance defined pornography as "the sexually  explicit
subordination  of  women, graphically depicted." (The final draft
was changed to include  men  as  well.)   Then  there  were  nine
additional characteristics, and at least one had to be present in
addition to the main one of subordination.  These  nine  included
scenarios  involving mutilation, torture or injury, and depiction
of rape as enjoyable.

     Of course, civil libertarians attacked the law, and that  is
their role.  I support the ACLU generally, but I don't think that
passage of any law  with  which  the  ACLU  disagrees  means  the
jackboots  are  coming.   Catherine  MacKinnon  points  out  that
freedom of speech is not an absolute.  Child pornography laws and
sexual  harrassment laws are just two areas where the courts have
ruled that one persons  free  speech,  guaranteed  by  the  First
Amendment,  could  interfere  with  another  persons guarantee to
equal protection under the  law,  guaranteed  by  the  Fourteenth
Amendment.   In  constitutional  terms,  the argument is that the
"free  speech"  or  pornography  must  be  balanced  against  the
interference  with  "equal  protection  under  the  law" that the
pornography allegedly entails.


Mike Kelly
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lkk@mit-eddie.UUCP (Larry Kolodney) (04/06/84)

Mike Kelly made a comparison between banning porno and banning child
pornography, citing limitations to first amendment freedoms.

I think the comparison is flawed since the rationales behind the banning
are entirely different.  Child Pornography is banned because it
(presumably) hurts the children involved.  Regular porno is banned
because of the suppossed deliterious effects on the viewer and on
society, which is a matter of adults making up their minds.  Do you
believe that adults should be shielded from such movies?  Who is going
to decide what to sheild them from?  WIll the person screening the films
(the censor) be hurt by their content?  I want all the access that the
censor does.
-- 
Larry Kolodney
(The Devil's Advocate)

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