[net.women] math differences

flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (05/21/84)

	William Hughes said that there is insufficient evidence for the
conclusion that environment is the sole cause of observed sex differences in
math aptitude.  I disagree.  Based on our knowledge of brain function, we
have extremely good reason to doubt the existence of any sex-linked genetic
cause of such differences.  The brain is highly adaptive, in short.
Although some abilities may be "built-in", most must be learned.  Consider
this in the light of evolutionary theory.  If there are sex differences in
math ability, some evolutionary explanation is called for.  But in most of
the history of human evolution, there was little need for specifically
mathematical ability at all, much less any survival value to sex differences
in math ability.  The ability to do math is a very specific form of behavior
which receives no direct influence from evolutionary pressures.  The only
feasible way to provide for such ability genetically was to have a highly
adaptible brain.  Thus, we have good theoretical reasons to doubt that there
are genetic differences between the sexes in mathematical ability, or any
other particular area of intelligence.

				The aspiring iconoclast is back!
				--Paul Torek, ..umcp-cs!flink

martillo@ihuxj.UUCP (Yehoyaqim Shemtob Martillo) (05/21/84)

The math difference may be caused by different abilities to perceive
spatial relationships.  I could think of several reasons for such an
ability to be related to sexual differences especially if humans have
hunter-gatherer ancestry.

By the way, if one believes Kuhn, science does not progress by building on
current paradigms but rather by overthrowing them.  Lack of evidence is
hardly a reason not to pursue research in a given area especially if
funding is available.

csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) (05/21/84)

Paul Torek argues that, as there is no clear reason to believe in
an evolutionary mechanism that would tend to produce sex diferrentiation
in mathematical ability, one can establish the theory that
all such differences are due to enviornmental factors.  The argument
is certainly plausible, and does lend some weight to the enviornmental
hypothesis.  However it can hardly be said to establish this hypothesis.

1:  We can concieve of evolutionary mechanisms which would cause 
    sexual differentiation in the brain.  (In fact there is some
    evidence that male and female brains do differ structurally)
    As we do not have any knowledge of what changes in brain 
    structure might be related to mathematical ability we cannot
    rule out the possibility that structural differences may be
    present and may affect mathematical ability.  (Perhaps males
    may have hunted to a greater extent, improving spacial 
    perception which turns out to be related to math ability. I
    do not provide this as a plausible argument but as an example
    of evelutionary mechanisms which migh produce sexual
    differentiation.)

2:  As yet evolutionary mechanisms are only partially understood

3:  Pure accident cannot be ruled out

I can come up with a plausible argument that a ten pound rock falls
ten times as fast as a one pound rock.  Strong evidence can only
come from observation and experimentation.  
                                               William Hughes

jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) (05/25/84)

You bet the brain is adaptible. But what makes you think that male and
female brains adapt the same way? After all, their chemical environment
must surely be different, on the average.

I would guess that we don't know nearly enough about brain function to say,
for instance, that the way we learn mathematics is totally independent from
systems that are affected by sex and heredity (such as those which determine
height). Even small effects are not non-effects.

						Jeff Winslow