millines@fortune.UUCP (Trish Millines) (07/25/84)
I just read this article in the San Francisco Chronicle. The journalist quoted
Guccione's (Penthouse magazine) lawyer as saying:
"The fact is that this is a girl who has been
pretending she's Little Miss Muffet for the
last year and the fact is that before she won
the title she wasn't. The public ought to
know that."
Now Guccione was quoted as saying:
"She should remember, and I'm sure in her heart
she does remember, that she signed the release.
It's not the sort of thing a girl does every day.
I don't feel I'm responsible. My obligation was
to my readers. This was an interesting bit of
highly newsworthy information and photographs.
I think it's a mistake that she elected not to
fight to keep her crown. I think the pageant
is getting away with something, which I think is
very unfortunate."
From what I can see, Guccione and his lawyer have opposing views as far as
whether what Venessa did was right or wrong. So she's supposed to fight and
win.....?
Makes me wonder the reason behind publishing those photos!!!res@ihuxn.UUCP (Rich Strebendt) (07/26/84)
> Makes me wonder the reason behind publishing those photos!!!
The reason is obvious:
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...!ihnp4!ihuxn!resdyer@wivax.UUCP (Stephen Dyer) (07/26/84)
There's only one reason behind the publishing of those photos (the same one as the reason for the Miss America pageant): MONEY Gove Vidal, after seeing his screenplay for "Caligula" turned into snuff, described Guccione as "the dark lady of porn." Sums it up pretty well. -- /Steve Dyer decvax!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbncca.ARPA
edhall@randvax.UUCP (07/26/84)
Trish asks:
> Makes me wonder the reason behind publishing those photos!!!
I suspect the answer is simple: to sell magazines. I've heard
reports that some newstands have sold out within a few hours.
Of course, Penthouse has always been in business to make a buck
by exploiting sexuality (and, I would claim, women).
So far as who exploits women more, Penthouse or the Miss America
Pageant, I'd say it's a toss-up.
-Ed Hall
decvax!randvax!edhallhawk@oliven.UUCP (07/27/84)
>From what I can see, Guccione and his lawyer have opposing views as far as >whether what Venessa did was right or wrong. So she's supposed to fight and >win.....? Huh? The lawyer did not say that what she did was wrong, nor did Guccione. The lawyer seems to have said that she is not what she was trying to pass herself off as. Being a phony has nothing to do with the action being right or wrong, except to the extent that the fraud itself is wrong. >Makes me wonder the reason behind publishing those photos!!! Money. Nothing more, nothing less. -- hawk (Rick Hawkins @ Olivetti ATC) [hplabs|zehntel|fortune|ios|tolerant|allegra|tymix]!oliveb!oliven!hawk
alan@allegra.UUCP (Alan S. Driscoll) (07/29/84)
I think most of us agree that both Penthouse and the Miss America Pageant are in the business of exploiting women. So the question is, was Vanessa Williams the innocent victim of this exploitation, or did she take advantage of it to achieve fame and fortune? "Isn't it terrible what they did to poor Vanessa Williams?" Maybe, maybe not. Remember, she chose to be part of an exploitive system. Maybe she was used, and deserves our sympathy. But what she did was still stupid, as several people have pointed out. Maybe she knowingly used a corrupt system to get what she wanted. In this case, she would be no better than the publishers and the promoters who used her. -- Alan S. Driscoll AT&T Bell Laboratories