labelle@hplabsc.UUCP (WB6YZZ La Belle) (08/01/84)
>>Why don't these women use their brains instead of their bodies? Because their bodies are worth more than their brains! >>I believe that BOTH beauty contests AND posing nude for porn mags >>are degrading for women and they depict women as nothing more >>than flesh... blah blah blah I'm really getting tired of hearing this old line. "Woman poses nude derades all of womanhood." Or "Woman shows body- now all women are just bodies" et. etc. ad nauseum. When are you going to grow up? Sounds like you have a bad case of "Trish syndrome". There are (believe it or not) a lot of men out there who are intelligent, warm, loving human beings, who obtain pleasure from looking at "pornographic" pictures with NO INTENTION OR FEELING OF "degradation" at all! If a man looks at a nude womans body and he is a normal, open minded, heterosexual male- most of the time he will be turned on. SO WHAT? It's called an instinctual reaction. Do you always think of love, personality, or brains RIGHT AT THE POINT OF ORGASM? I doubt it. We are civilized ANIMALS. You can lust after someone and STILL respect them as a person! Try it - you'll like it Now, before I'm misunderstood regarding body and brains, If you have an open mind towards sex for what it is or can be, and a beautifull body that men are willing to pay to see- whats wrong with selling the pictures? Bodies in this society are worth more than brains in many ways AND for men to! Tell me a profession in which Larry Holmes (heavy weight champion) could have made 10 million dollars in one evening using his brain? The minimum wage in the NFL is now $50,000. Do you make that much? What do school teachers make? GEORGE
julian@deepthot.UUCP (Julian Davies) (08/09/84)
Some research was reported not long ago in the Globe & Mail (Toronto)
which indicates that 'soft porn' may be much more risky than is
commonly believed. The researchers had groups of people ('normal
healthy adults') in matched groups, view films. The people were told
they were involved in a study if cinema styles or something like that.
The researchers used various tests to examine the people's reactions,
among other things towards the idea of rape, violence towards another
person, etc. One group were shown soft porn film segments, carefully
chosen to exclude *any* "violence". the other group saw neutral
material, not related to sexuality at all.
The researchers found, as I remember the story, that the people who
saw the non-violent soft porn, afterwards displayed much more
acceptance towards such things as rape, violence, unfaithfulness,
and were much somewhat likely to start suspecting that their SOs
might be or become 'unfaithful' sexually. The researchers were
reported tp be somewhat embarrassed because they had to explain to the
people in that group what had happened, and what seemed to have changed
in their attitudes, by a 'de-briefing'.
Of course, this is not conclusive, but it might be confirmed by
other researchers, in which case it would start looking like a solidly
confirmed phenomenon.
Pending confirmation or otherwise, 'soft porn' should be treated
with caution. Its being non-violent isn't necessarily 'safe'.edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) (08/11/84)
Soft porn makes people more friendly to violence and infidelity? I'm not surprised at all, as I suspect most people would agree that sexual arousal increases the capacity for aggression (in either sex). Let's be honest with ourselves. If we're sexually aroused, aren't we more likely to consider sex with the first receptive person around than when we aren't? And, at least to those who are conditioned to feel it is an acceptable form of aggression, wouldn't a bit of force in satisfying that arousal seem OK? The problem is not with the soft porn, per se, but in certain culturally-determined ways of dealing with sexual arousal. Thus, if we are to do something about this problem, perhaps we should ban sexual arousal in public. [:-), if you haven't guessed] I think that the people who did the study should have looked a bit more carefully at just what it was they were studying. Soft porn is just one of many stimuli for the effect they were measuring. -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall