[net.women] moRE: what the big deal is

flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul Torek) (08/22/84)

Omigosh!  They're still using a subject line that I originated?  You mean
they actually paid attention to what I said?  And some of them actually
agreed with it?  Medic!  Ambulance!!  I'm going into shock!  :-)

I don't know who said this, but Alan Driscoll quoted it:
> Reread what I've said
> about why complaining that "men also have it bad, so don't put all the blame
> on us" is a real live evasion of the first order and get back to me.

The H*** it is!  Alan Driscoll deserves credit for pointing out that it
isn't necessarily a case of men benefiting by the oppression of sex rules.
Yes, women have the worse of it (which Alan fails to acknowledge).  But life
is not a zero-sum game, and in this game, both sides lose.  And furthermore,
men aren't solely to blame, especially for their own sex-role-induced
miseries.  For an example, see below.

---
    If sensitivity is often viewed as a weakness, then the best way to fight
    that attitude is to be strong and retain one's sensitivity. It can be
    done if it is important enough.
	 Farzin Mokhtarian        < ubc-vision!mokhtar >


Right on, Farzin!  And I agree, the assholes are not to be envied.  But I
still wish that sensitive men were in greater demand.  The fact that they
aren't constitutes the "example" I promised above.

I bet you net.singles readers are wondering why I posted this here.  Well,
did you ever -- especially you males -- tell yourself "No more Mr. Nice
Guy"?  I have.  I used to worry that I was giving in on more than my share
of disputes.  But now I think that's a stupid attitude, caused by foolish
pride.  No more "No more Mr. Nice Guy"!   MORE Mr. Nice Guy!  Yes, if you're
Mr. Nice Guy, you *will* be giving in on more than your share of disputes.
But if you have faith in yourself, you know that you will not permit
yourself to be abused or taken advantage of by a cynical, abusive person.
And even if you give in more than half the time, as long as you are still
better off than you would be trying to protect an oversized ego, it's worth
it.  The ability to be able to tell which issues are really worth fighting
over, and which to just let go, can make your life much better.  Try it --
you'll like it.  And it's not just men who could use this advice.

				--Paul Torek, umcp-cs!flink
P.S.  Doesn't that guy Mokhtarian know that there's a maximum allowable
reasonableness for this net?  He oughta be kicked out!  :-)