[net.women] When can a woman say "no"?

robison@eosp1.UUCP (Tobias D. Robison) (09/21/84)

References:

> speaking of rape:

> How many people think that a woman has given up her right
> to say no to a man after leading him on?  To be more
> specific:

> Can she rightly refuse intercourse if she has been:

> 	1) flirting, moving sexily, leaning close, making
>		lewd, sexual comments.

>	2) wearing excessively provacative clothing -- whore
>		like clothes, with most of the breasts and/or
>		legs showing (or whatever), or with somewhat 
>		transparent material.

>	3) participating in kissing, heavy petting, fondling with
>		the man.

The activities listed above are IRRELEVANT to the question of how
a woman gives up her right to say no.  Why not ask if a woman
gives up her right to say "no" if she:

 - Builds a tractor?
 - works for a company that makes prophylactics?
 - is forced to flee her house at night due to a fire?
 - swims in a foreign country?
 - dances the waltz?

Sexual intercourse is an activity that is totally different from ALL the
ones listed above, both in its immediate effects upon the people
involved, and in its possible long term effects.  Furthermore, all of
the examples listed are ones which occur IN PUBLIC in our society
to various degrees.  How can any public act commit anyone to such a
private act?  Gosh!

By the way, if a man engages in any of the listed acts, I don't think
he has given up his right to say "no" either.  I'll bet there is
hardly a man around who, while engaging in some of this delight and
banter, has invariably asked himself, "Let's see, am I irrevocably
committed now? Can I still back out if I give one more kiss? Did the
clothing I wear commit me to say yes?"

WHAT CRUMB OF LOGIC SUPPORTS THIS STUPID ATTITUDE?????

	- Toby Robison (not Robinson!)
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