[net.women] I am pro-choice, dare you claim the same?

bstempleton@watmath.UUCP (Brad Templeton) (09/17/84)

One think that has always irked me is the constant misuse of the
phrase "pro-choice" pertaining to abortion.  I have seen many people
claim to be pro-choice on the abortion issue, and come out anti-choice
on other issues like pornography and public funding of abortion.  I
have often seen people who call themselves pro-choice feminists come out
in favour of the censorship of pornography!  This astounds me.

Abortion is something the anti-abortionist finds disgusting and morally
evil.  These days many feminists in the news say the same thing about
X-rated films.  Surely "It's my body and I can do what I want with it!"
implies "It's my mind and I can do what I want with it!"

Likewise on funding.  How can you claim to be pro-choice, and at the
same time insist that those anti-abortionists be forced on pain of prison
to pay for abortions!  Where's the advocacy of choice in that?

Now I'm all for individual choice on the abortion issue, and you can see
a small number of the reasons in my previous postings to net.abortion.
I also don't find anything wrong in us pro-abortionists banding together
to help pay for abortions for the poor if we want to.
But really folks, only use the term pro-choice if you really mean it.
Of course, the super-loaded "pro-life" isn't used very well either.
-- 
	Brad Templeton - Waterloo, Ont. (519) 886-7304

sam@phs.UUCP (Sherry Marts) (09/18/84)

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I am pro-choice on the abortion issue.  I AM NOT PRO-ABORTION!!!
The two words are NOT synonymous.   I believe that ay decision
concerning whtether or not to carry a pregnancy to term should
be left up to the woman, in consultation with a health-care
provider and anyone else with whom she might choose to discuss
it.   I would fight any effort to force a woman to abort a
pregnancy as strongly as I'm now fighting efforts to limit
a woman's right to a safe and affordably abortion on demand.

Unlike Brad, I find the term "pro-choice" adequate to describe
my position on the abortion issue.  Any ambiguity of meaning is
usually cleared up by the context in which it appears.  In general
contemporary usage, "pro-choice" specifically means "pro-choice on
the abortion issue" - think of it as an abbreviation, if that
will help, Brad.   And  if you really are pro-abortion, call
yourself that.  Most pro-choice folks aren't, any more than the
-nti.abortion crowd is truly "pro-life".

gail@calmasd.UUCP (Gail B. Hanrahan) (09/22/84)

>Likewise on funding.  How can you claim to be pro-choice, and at the
>same time insist that those anti-abortionists be forced on pain of prison
>to pay for abortions!  Where's the advocacy of choice in that?
> 	Brad Templeton


Some of those same anti-abortionists are "forcing" me to pay for MX
missiles and weaponry that *I* don't want. :)

This whole "I don't want my tax money to go for xyz" thing is
fallacious.  It's just as easy to think of your tax money
as paying for something you do support.  (But not as interesting
rhetorically.)


	Gail Bayley Hanrahan
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