[net.women] rape is not sex?

dls@hocse.UUCP (09/07/84)

If I had a nickel for every person in this
discussion group that asserts "rape is not
a sex crime, it is a crime of violence," I'd
be rich.

Is this intended to imply that since violence
is common during bank robberies that bank
robberies have nothing to do with money?

The sort of articles that have been posted to
the net of the "rape is not sex" variety
involve a rather superficial analysis of
rape. Rape is 100% involved with sex, and
preventing rape seems impossible without
a clear understanding of its motives and 
nature.

colonel@gloria.UUCP (George Sicherman) (09/14/84)

[Insert nickel here]

>>	If I had a nickel for every person in this discussion group
>>	that asserts "rape is not a sex crime, it is a crime of
>>	violence," I'd be rich.  Is this intended to imply that since
>>	violence is common during bank robberies that bank robberies
>>	have nothing to do with money?

No, but bank robberies are motivated at least as much by love of
violence as by love of money.  Those who like stealing but not violence
become confidence agents or stockbrokers, not bank robbers; and there
are far more of them.
-- 
Col. G. L. Sicherman
...seismo!rochester!rocksanne!rocksvax!sunybcs!gloria!colonel

tims@mako.UUCP (Tim Stoehr) (09/26/84)

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 > No, but bank robberies are motivated at least as much by love of
 > violence as by love of money.  Those who like stealing but not violence
 > become confidence agents or stockbrokers, not bank robbers; and there
 > are far more of them.

The above quote is in defense of the assertion that rape is not at
all a crime of sex or lust, just pure violence.
This argument only holds up if there is a non-violent way of having
sex with an unwilling female.  If there are no women willing to have
sex with you, that you can afford, anyway, then how do have sex with
them against their will without violence and intimidation?  Do you
assume there are no guys out there who are so desperate for sex that
they will force a woman into it?  To assume the motive for all rapes
is just violence is insane.