greenber@acf4.UUCP (09/20/84)
<> Yeah, I really pity those women who have to wear sneakers in the office instead of those real comfortable shoes we men must wear. And they don't know the joys of having many layers around the neck (lets see: the two layers of the collar, then the two layers of the tie, then the vest then the two layers of the jacket.....). It must really be a pity not to be allowed to wear all those great clothes. Ross M. Greenberg @ NYU ----> allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber <----
gordon@bolton.UUCP (Gordon Partridge) (09/20/84)
A bit of historical trivia: some 15 or 20 years ago women's footwear fashion changed from 2 1/2 inch heels the diameter of a quarter on the bottom to 3 1/2 inch the diameter of a dime. The city of Atlanta passed an ordinance limiting heel heights and requiring a larger diameter on the shoe-pavement interface. There was no intention of enforcing the ban. The idea was that if a woman fell down the city hall steps in high heels, the city could say she was breaking the law anyway. Gordon Partridge, GenRad, Inc., Mail Stop 98, Route 117, Bolton, MA 01740
ag5@pucc-i (Henry C. Mensch) (09/22/84)
<crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch OUCH!!>
Maybe you're working in the wrong office?? ;-}
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"Ignorance is bliss, but it's revelation is not."ag5@pucc-i (Henry C. Mensch) (09/22/84)
<I think we're bordering on the ridiculous again!>
When I worked as a secretary (for one year, at Syracuse University),
there was *no* dress code specified for me. The office was rather casual
(Student Government Association). For the first few weeks, I wore shirt,
tie, slacks, etc. After a while, the tie got dropped from the apparel
collection with no complaints. During my last weeks on the job, jeans
and t-shirts/sweatshirts/jerseys worked just fine. I wonder if a woman
in the same job could have gotten away with this sort of stuff.
Oh, yeah; the fact that I was physically larger than my male
boss had *nothing* to do with it. :-)
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"Ignorance is bliss, but it's revelation is not."ecl@hocsj.UUCP (09/25/84)
REFERENCE: <360@houxb.UUCP>, <502@pucc-i> > When I worked as a secretary (for one year, at Syracuse University), >there was *no* dress code specified for me. The office was rather casual >(Student Government Association). For the first few weeks, I wore shirt, >tie, slacks, etc. After a while, the tie got dropped from the apparel >collection with no complaints. During my last weeks on the job, jeans >and t-shirts/sweatshirts/jerseys worked just fine. I wonder if a woman >in the same job could have gotten away with this sort of stuff. Here at AT&T (Bell Laboratories, what-have-you), male MTS's (engineers, to those who don't follow the terminology) regularly wear t-shirts and jeans. Female MTS's don't--to do so would risk being classified as a clerk or some other position "below" MTS. (Dressy jeans and heels seem to be common secretarial dress though). I try to compromise by wearing slacks (perhaps jeans cut, but not Lee's, Levi's, or anything else in the blue denim range) and shirts purchased in the boy's department (Izod and L.L.Bean are about as casual as I feel I can get). I often go the pants, jacket, and tie (regular or bow) route. (One exception--if 18 inches of snow have fallen the night before and have to be shoveled before I go to work, it's jeans and a flannel shirt--hardly anyone's there to see it anyway!) Since discrimination on the basis of sex is illegal, a company would have a very hard case insisting that a woman wear a dress--particularly if she were dressed just like all her male colleagues. I'd be curious on other women's experiences with trying to figure out what to wear to be treated at their job level. Evelyn C. Leeper ...ihnp4!hocsj!ecl
lynnef@teklabs.UUCP (Lynne Fitzsimmons) (09/28/84)
Here at Tektronix, there is no official dress code. If we have to deal
with "suits", we may dress accordingly. It depends on the position of
the "suit". If I was talking to a customer, I would likely wear a skirt.
Most the the female engineers dress quite casually -- jeans/slacks and a
shirt. The secretarial types are *always* dressed nicely though. Always.
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