minow@decvax.UUCP (Martin Minow) (10/26/84)
All this discussion of co-ed "bathrooms" reminds me of an incident a year ago. A mixed-bunch of friends sat down to dinner at a very fancy resturant in Utrecht, Holland (Hotel de Pays Bas -- highly recommended). As is often the case in such resturants, the women were given menus which lacked prices. They were furious and the men found their menus snatched from their hands. A few minutes later, one woman retired to the restroom. She returned unable to keep a straight face -- it seems that a menu, with prices, was posted on the wall of the ladies' room. Moral, if any, is to wonder who is being "demeaned" and who's ego is being inflated. I would guess that this has happened in other similar resturants, but none of my companions has ever mentioned it. Martin Minow decvax!minow
berry@zinfandel.UUCP (Berry Kercheval) (10/27/84)
> All this discussion of co-ed "bathrooms" reminds me of an incident > a year ago. A mixed-bunch of friends sat down to dinner at a very > fancy resturant in Utrecht, Holland (Hotel de Pays Bas -- highly > recommended). As is often the case in such resturants, the women > were given menus which lacked prices. This happened to my wife (well, girlfriend at that time) and me (yes, 'me' is correct here) in what is probably the most pretentious restaurant in San Francisco -- the Carnelian Room high atop the Bank of America building. (Not recommended, but that's a topic for a different group.) Anyway, given a menu with no prices, Alene was totally unable to decide on what to get and we had to trade menus! I think this practice, while once nice (if you are into the male-dominated macho so called 'chivalry' game (totally unlike REAL chivalry, but THAT's a topic for another group)) is outdated. WE always insist on identical menus now. My having to interpret the French manu is bad enough. -- Berry Kercheval Zehntel Inc. (ihnp4!zehntel!zinfandel!berry) (415)932-6900
brian@digi-g.UUCP (Merlyn Leroy <Brian Westley>) (10/29/84)
<food> Concerning women being given menus without prices in "fancy" restaurants: If this happened to me, I would order my dinner and kick up a big fuss when the bill came, since the menu THEY GAVE ME had NO MENTION of this costing me ANYTHING! I would then pay with money with no printing on it. However, since I 1) am male, and 2) don't frequent restaurants where you have to wear a tie (why do I have to impress my food?), I don't think this is very likely. PS: When Groucho was refused admittance to a restaurant because he had no tie, he pointed out someone who was bald and said: "Why? You let HIM in without his hair!" Merlyn Leroy net.ties.prohibited