[net.women] castration, rape, legal system, net.women, ad nauseum

sunny@sun.uucp (Sunny Kirsten) (11/10/84)

> Surgical castration need not be the only method considered. After all there
> are other less drastic wasy to accomplish the same end.
> 
> Consider if you will the end result of implanting, surgically, a time released
> supply of female hormones in a male body adequate for perhaps a year and
> renewed under court order for  a) a set period of time or b) life.
> 
	Adding female hormones is not the same as removing the male hormones.
	Removing the testes prevents reproduction also, which adding female
hormones would not.  That's an advantage, unless you WANT to propogate the genes
of rapists (which I guess is how we got into castration).  I'm not sure that
castration is the answer to rape, but as long as we're discussing it... let's
get the facts on hormones straight.
	Personally, I believe that the problem/solution to criminal proclivities
is guaranteed jail time... as opposed to our revolving-door due-procces "legal"
system, which guarantees that even murder will only carry a "life" sentence of
seven years(given good behavior in jail).  When "life" again means until death,
and criminals carry in their hearts the fear of incarceration or death, then
there's a chance they might think twice before committing a crime.  Let's not
just pick on rapists...  (oh, wait, this is net.women, and the discussion
started as, what do we do about rape?).
	I also think we're missing the point by devolving into squabbles over
how to treat the criminals who perpetrate rape.  I think the bottom-line issue
is one of social conditioning, sex-roles, and power-roles, of our existing
society, which allow men to feel that they have power over women, and to ignore
when a woman says "no".  The solution will not be found in what we do with men
who have commited rape and been convicted by our "put the woman on trial"
court system, but instead by how we raise our boy children.  Let's get back to
the root cause of "rapist behavior".  Why does a boy/man grow up to become a
rapist?  What aspects of society/home need to be changed so that future men
do not become rapists?  Let's cut off the source of new rapists, rather than
the balls of existing ones.  I think it would be more constructive to work
toward keeping criminals IN jail rather than allowing them back on the streets
to have the opportunity to repeat their crimes (which statistics prove is
usually the case with rapists), and to work on changing our social/moral
training to prevent the growth of new rapists.
	Women:  are you doing everything you can as mothers/wives/etc. to
come done hard on every man in your life who shows an accepting attitude as
opposed to a disapproving attitude toward rape?  We have to educate everyone.
Do not sit quietly while those around you accept rape as normal.
	Men:	examine thine attitudes toward rape.  Regardless of what the
courts do, you know it's wrong for any person (man) to violate the sanctity
of another human (woman) as in the case of rape.
	Aside from mass education against rape, we might look at constructive
alternatives.  For those of you who believe the reason for rape is "sex", what
do you think of "sex" being legally available (a la prostitution) as an
alternative to forcefully taking it from a random non-consenting woman?  For
those of you who believe rape is a crime of violence, have you thought about
the implications of having your children (of both sexes) viewing hour after
hour of sanctified murder, mayhem, violence, and lack of human values as
evidenced in normal TeleVision fare, versus the fact that TV could be showing
the positive value of loving and caring for your fellow humans?  How many times
have your children viewed the positive loving aspects of sex versus the number
of times they've seen it connected with violence on the boobtoob?  
	For those who believe castration is the answer, think on this...
for every rapist you succeed in castrating, how many more are concurrently
being created simply by the fact of allowing the TeleVision to be the PRIME
source of social "values?" we educate our children with?  Do you really believe
that you can "fix" a psychological problem (the rapists mind) by cutting off
his balls, or incarcerating him?  I suggest the answer lies in the home, in
the social values we impart to our children, the place where rapists are
CREATED.
	Throw out your television.  It is the largest source of mind pollution
and newspeak you can brainwash your children with.  Watch your children playing,
carefully, and observe their adoption of the values they are surrounded with.
Do you use the vidiot box as a babysitter?  Is that a good idea?  No way.
When did you last write your local television station, or the networks,
requesting less violence and more sex on television?  Without healthy models
of "normal" sex for our children to view, and with all the unhealthy violence
they are inundated with, what do you expect them to grow up to be but rapists?
	Why does the motion picture rating system concentrate on sex rather
violence?  Why don't we let every age view healthy loving sex, and limit access
to violence to parental guidance?  Why do you believe that violence is OK, but
sex is not?  Why do you allow this warped sense of values into YOUR home?
	Farenheit (umm...what is the temperature of a burning television?)

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edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) (11/15/84)

I suspect that castration and other such mutilation will only encourage
further violence.  By angering men who already feel resentment against
women, castrating rapists (especially with the current unlikelihood
of being caught and convicted) would be likely to increase the rape
rate.

		-Ed