rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dinsdale Piranha) (02/07/85)
> I agree that freedom of speech is a fine right. I agree that, as Rich Rosen > says, many non-thinking people vote - but don't gloss over what happened in > Germany under Hitler as something having nothing to do with reason. > Read Albert Speer's SPANDAU DIARIES. He tells how he fell under Hitler's > spell.He went to a rally expecting to see a funny little man dressed up in a > uniform raving and shouting like a loonie. Well, he found a quiet well > spoken, sincere man in a business suit (he was addressing businessmen) talking > about the sad shape Germany was in (all too true) and how he wanted, with > their support, to DO something about it. My point being that Hitler was no > dummy. Don't let the newsreels fool you. He tailored his speech and manner > to the audience. Just like today's pols. If Gobbels had had T.V.!!! ...he'd be Jerry Falwell!! > They were trying to build a new world. Many of them were 'good' men as well > as good Germans. So easy to be pulled along and join up. The horror came > soon enough. But the first SS men British troops met behaved honorably. Sounds a good deal like the goals of the Moral Majority, no? > Evil men fool good men with 'reason', eh? I like that line from the old > 'Secret Agent' TV series title song: "A pretty face can hid an evil mind." From the same song: "They've given you a number, and taken away your name." > Well, a reasoned platform can hid an 'evil' program. Can't an emotional > platform 'hide' a good program??? Read the signature line. Not likely. If they have to resort to emotional appeals, how substantive can the platform be? -- Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
djhawley@wateng.UUCP (David J. Hawley) (02/08/85)
>> to the audience. Just like today's pols. If Gobbels had had T.V.!!! > >...he'd be Jerry Falwell!! Is this libel? If not legally, it seems that way ethically. If Nazis had had had T.V. they might smear his enemies, encourage hatred, and misunderstanding. Is that what you are trying to do, Mr. Cohen? I trust not. > >> They were trying to build a new world. Many of them were 'good' men as well >> as good Germans. So easy to be pulled along and join up. The horror came >> soon enough. But the first SS men British troops met behaved honorably. > >Sounds a good deal like the goals of the Moral Majority, no? Good motives does not imply Nazi methods (unless you are a true believer in passivity). This is not reasoning. It's prejudice. Also, the Moral Majority is trying to STOP the creeping creation of a new world, a creation already in progress. It seems they feel that this new world will/is much closer to Nazi (with its roots in Nietsche) inhumanity. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This kind of kneejerk unthinking illogic can be safely labelled "redneck". And they call Bible-Belters redneck. Hmm.. Maybe its not confined to any one group, ... or any one set of ideas. Maybe we have to judge ideas on their own merits. Rather than the easy *ad hominem*. David Hawley -- David John Hawley University of Waterloo {allegra,clyde,decvax,ihnp4,linus}!watmath!wateng!djhawley The opinions expressed herein are not those of my employers, or of the University of Waterloo, and although I've probably borrowed them from someone else I've thought about them a bit.