srm@nsc.UUCP (Richard Mateosian) (03/02/85)
In article <700@ccice5.UUCP> rdz@ccice5.UUCP (Robert D. Zarcone) writes: > >I have never heard of this book or author It's generally available in paperback. Mary Daly is (was?) on the faculty at Boston College. She describes herself as a revolting hag and crone--which sent me scurrying for my OED. >MILLIONS of women were burned as witches or whatever in Europe? Yes. >Female mutilations; is this like foot-binding or is there more? Clitorectomies, histerectomies, removal of healthy kidneys and other organs. In nineteenth century America, surgery was the cure for dissatisfaction with women's lot. >Are you saying lobotomies and shock treatment are used to torture >(for pleasure or control) women? More than 70% of reported shock treatments are given to women, usually older women. These statistics do not count shock that is performed in doctors' offices, so the actual percentage is probably higher. Lobotomies are rarer today than they were in the 1950s, but they also were used primarily against women. Did you see the movie about Frances Farmer? Did you think they made that up? I'm sure you've heard about American women's great backward step, described in The Feminine Mystique. Psychiatry was used at all levels to effect and enforce that change. -- Richard Mateosian {allegra,cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!srm nsc!srm@decwrl.ARPA
ed@mtxinu.UUCP (Ed Gould) (03/04/85)
> >Female mutilations; is this like foot-binding or is there more? > > Clitorectomies, histerectomies, removal of healthy kidneys and other organs. > In nineteenth century America, surgery was the cure for dissatisfaction > with women's lot. Hysterectomy is the removal of the uterus, as I'm sure most all of us know. However, the word means "removal of hysteria,"(!) which shows how the practice originated. -- Ed Gould mt Xinu, 739 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA 94710 USA {ucbvax,decvax}!mtxinu!ed +1 415 644 0146
jeff@rtech.ARPA (Jeff Lichtman) (03/04/85)
> > Hysterectomy is the removal of the uterus, as I'm sure most all of us > know. However, the word means "removal of hysteria,"(!) which shows > how the practice originated. > > -- > Ed Gould mt Xinu, 739 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA 94710 USA Perhaps this belongs in net.nlang, but here goes: "Hysterectomy" and "hysteria" both come from the Greek root "hystera", meaning "womb" or "uterus". It is "hysteria", and not "hysterectomy", which is the word with the sexist etymology. -- Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.) aka Swazoo Koolak
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (03/06/85)
>>>Female mutilations; is this like foot-binding or is there more? >> >>Clitorectomies, histerectomies, removal of healthy kidneys and other organs. >>In nineteenth century America, surgery was the cure for dissatisfaction >>with women's lot. > Hysterectomy is the removal of the uterus, as I'm sure most all of us > know. However, the word means "removal of hysteria,"(!) which shows > how the practice originated. [ED GOULD] Actually, the word "hysteria" comes from the Latin, which comes from the Greek "hUsterikos", which means womb. Womb-ectomy seems a proper formation. It's interesting though that the word "hysteria" actually comes from the root "hyster-" (from hystericus and husterikos, "hustera" = womb), since it was believed that hysteria (an obviously female disease - ?) was caused by uterine disturbances. -- Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
sunny@sun.uucp (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) (03/06/85)
> > >Female mutilations; is this like foot-binding or is there more? > > > > Clitorectomies, histerectomies, removal of healthy kidneys and other organs. > > In nineteenth century America, surgery was the cure for dissatisfaction > > with women's lot. > > Hysterectomy is the removal of the uterus, as I'm sure most all of us > know. However, the word means "removal of hysteria,"(!) which shows > how the practice originated. > > -- > Ed Gould mt Xinu, 739 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA 94710 USA > {ucbvax,decvax}!mtxinu!ed +1 415 644 0146 Go play in net.jokes, Ed -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)
srm@nsc.UUCP (Richard Mateosian) (03/06/85)
>Hysterectomy is the removal of the uterus, as I'm sure most all of us >know. However, the word means "removal of hysteria,"(!) which shows >how the practice originated. > Small quibble: it's the other way around. The Greek word for uterus is hustera; the modern label hysteria is derived from the ancient word for uterus. -- Richard Mateosian {allegra,cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!srm nsc!srm@decwrl.ARPA
jss@brunix.UUCP (Judith Schrier) (03/10/85)
> (Hysterectomy) means 'removal of hysteria'...
not quite. It means removal of the uterus. HOWEVER, 'hysteria' means a
condition caused by having a uterus (more or less).
judith