[net.music] long/varied rock--summary of responses

rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (03/18/85)

Well, as promised a while back, here's an edited summary of the responses
to the query I put out a while back.  Comments from many people indicated
that they had a good idea of what I was talking about, and helped me define
the genre better--though I still lack a good name for it.

I did eliminate two sorts of responses (when I recognized them)--songs
which are merely long without a progression of theme/style/etc., and
concept albums.  I'm not knocking either of these; they just don't fit the
category.  Of course, somehow there's a progression of style from a longer
piece with a progression of themes through a seamless set of separate
songs to a concept album.

See Rich Rosen's article <677@pyuxd> for more discussion of classifying
various longer pieces.

I also filtered out some of the non-rock.  There are probably some bad
calls here.  (Yah, I know--what the hell IS rock, anyway?)  I tried to zap
only broad categories and not split hairs.

OK--first the list by artist and title.  There are a bunch I HAVE NOT
heard (and some artists I've never even heard of before), so don't quarrel
with me about the things that are here--if I didn't recognize it, I
included it.  After the list there's a little more discussion.

Many thanks to the 40 or so people who contributed!

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Alan Parsons Project	Fall of the House of Usher
Allman Brothers		Whipping Post
			Mountain Jam
			In Memory of Elizabeth Reed
			You Don't Love Me
Amon Duul 2		Tanz der Lemminge
Anderson, Jon		Olias of Sunhillow
  (+Vangelis)		Horizons
Ashra Tempel		Join Inn
Beatles			A Day in the Life
			Golden Slumbers Medley (Abbey Road Side II)
Butterfield Blues Band	East-West
Camel			The Snow Goose
Canned Heat		Refried Boogie
			Fried Hockey Boogie
Chambers Brothers	Time
Crass			Yes Sir, I Will
Cream			Spoonful (actually, this song invites a lot of
			    work from any decent band)
Crosby, Stills, Nash	Suite: Judy Blue Eyes
Dire Straits		Telegraph Road
			Tunnel of Love
Doors			The End
			When the Music's Over
			The Soft Machine
Earth, Wind, and Fire	Zanzibar
Electric Light Orch.	Concerto for a Rainy Day
Emerson, Lake, Palmer	Karn Evil 9
Froese			Epsilon in Malaysian Pale
Genesis			Supper's Ready
			Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (more nearly concept)
Grateful Dead		Terrapin Station
			Dark Star
			St. Stephen
			The Other One
			Weather Report Suite (Let it Grow)
Grobschnitt		Rockpommel's Land
Hillage, Steve		Fish Rising
Iron Butterfly		In-a-Gadda-da-Vida
James Gang		Bomber Medley
Jethro Tull		Thick as a Brick
			Passion Play
John, Elton		Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding
FM			Head Room
			Border Crossing
Kansas			Magnum Opus
King Crimson		The Court of the Crimson King
Led Zeppelin		Stairway to Heaven
Mandalaband		Eye of Wendor
Mayall, John		Room to Move
McLean, Don		American Pie
Moody Blues		Nights in White Satin
			The Question
Mountain		Nantucket Sleighride
Nektar			Remember the Future
Phillips, Anthony	1984
Pink Floyd		Echoes
			Shine on You Crazy Diamond
			Dogs
Procol Harum		In Held 'Twas In I
Pulsar			Strands of the Future
Rare Earth		Get Ready
Renaissance		Scheherazade (? - this was spelled so many ways
			   that I can't spell it right any more!:-)
			Mother Russia
Rundgren, Todd; Utopia	The Ikon
Rush			2112
			Cygnus X-1
			Xanadu
			Hemispheres
Rutherford, Mike	Smallcreep's Day
Soviet France		Mohnomishe
Stewart, Al		Nostradamus
			Roads to Moscow
Super Session		Season of the Witch
Throbbing Gristle	2nd Annual Report
Traffic			Glad
			Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys
			Dream Gerrard
Ultimate Spinach	Jazz Thing
War			City, Country, City
Who			Overture/Underture
			Quadrophenia (?)
			Won't Get Fooled Again
			A Quick One
Yes			Close to the Edge
			Roundabout
			(the four parts of) Tales from Topographic Oceans
			And You and I
			The Gates of Delirium
			Awaken
Zappa, Frank & MoI	We're Only in it for the Money
			Absolutely Free
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Notes:

Some groups seem to create music which fits the category fairly often, just
as a matter of style.  Pink Floyd was the most commonly mentioned group,
and I didn't include everything that was suggested.  In particular, I left
out music from "The Wall", regarding that as a concept album.  Yes was also
mentioned frequently, as was some of Jon Anderson's solo work.

There's a style (perhaps more common in jazz than in rock) in which each
musician in a group carries the music for a stretch.  Sometimes this leads
to the effect I described--two examples which come to mind are the album
version of Rare Earth's "Get Ready" and the dread "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida".
Rich also commented on this.

Another style is simply jamming.  The older Allman Brothers albums have
examples of this which are also some of the finest old rock there is.
(RIP, Duane...)

Mike Oldfield was mentioned a couple of times.  It fell somewhat outside
what I was aiming for in the list.

There was little mention of Tangerine Dream--this surprises me.  Many of
the pieces (say, Stratosfear) are completely one theme, but others (a
couple from the album Encore) cover a lot of ground.
-- 
Dick Dunn	{hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd		(303)444-5710 x3086
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