features@ihuxf.UUCP (M.A. Zeszutko) (06/24/85)
> (apparently in the humanities, > graduate school is something you do for fun, and to prove that your parents > can afford it or something--I don't know.) > Cheryl Cheryl, Just a doggone minute! That isn't necessarily the case. With the twit you mentioned (edited out for brevity) it may have been true. It is *not* true of the English, history, philosophy, etc. majors *I* knew that went on to grad school. They went on for the same reasons anyone in CS or EE or any other discipline would...often because they need the advanced degree for a job, and they have fallen into the inconvenient habit of eating daily. -- aMAZon @ AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL; ihnp4!ihuxf!features
sigma@usl.UUCP (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) (06/26/85)
In article <2620@ihuxf.UUCP> features@ihuxf.UUCP (M.A. Zeszutko) writes: >> (apparently in the humanities, >> graduate school is something you do for fun, and to prove that your parents >> can afford it or something--I don't know.) >> Cheryl >Cheryl, > Just a doggone minute! That isn't necessarily the case. >With the twit you mentioned (edited out for brevity) it may have >been true. It is *not* true of the English, history, philosophy, >etc. majors *I* knew that went on to grad school. They went on >for the same reasons anyone in CS or EE or any other discipline >would...often because they need the advanced degree for a job, >and they have fallen into the inconvenient habit of eating daily. >-- > >aMAZon @ AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL; ihnp4!ihuxf!features Hm... I would have to disagree. Seems that people who go to undergraduate humanities are as described (rich parents, etc.), and then they flock to computer science for a quickie masters for the buck. Doctorates are another story. I mean, how can you become a yuppie with an MA in history? And then there was a classmate in Anthropology who loaded/unloaded Bud Light trucks 40 hours/week to get a BA in general studies (:-? :-? :-?) Spiros ut-sally!usl!sigma but not for long, heading for ST@GMR
lonetto@phri.UUCP (Michael Lonetto) (07/02/85)
> >> (apparently in the humanities, > >> graduate school is something you do for fun, and to prove that your parent > >Cheryl, > > Just a doggone minute! That isn't necessarily the case. > > It is *not* true of the English, history, philosophy, > >etc. majors *I* knew that went on to grad school. They went on > >for the same reasons anyone in CS or EE or any other discipline > Hm... I would have to disagree. Seems that people who go to > undergraduate humanities are as described (rich parents, etc.), > and then they flock to computer science for a quickie masters > for the buck. Doctorates are another story. I mean, how can > you become a yuppie with an MA in history? And then there was > a classmate in Anthropology who loaded/unloaded Bud Light trucks > 40 hours/week to get a BA in general studies (:-? :-? :-?) > > Spiros ut-sally!usl!sigma but not for long, heading for ST@GMR As anyone who has spent a few years at a competetive grad school ( Harvard, Princeton, etc) can tell you, NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD DO IT FOR FUN. Especially people in the humanities who are paid even less than students in the sciences(who are starving themselves). At Princeton the graduate students were almost uniformly middle class, and if Mom and Dad had paid for the BA that had just was about it. Given the hardship it was a wonder that they WEREN'T all rich. -- ____________________ Michael Lonetto PHRI NYC (allegra!phri!lonetto) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LIFE IS A TRIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) (07/26/85)
> >> (apparently in the humanities, > >> graduate school is something you do for fun, and to prove that your parents > >> can afford it or something--I don't know.) > > Just a doggone minute! That isn't necessarily the case. > >With the twit you mentioned (edited out for brevity) it may have > >been true. It is *not* true of the English, history, philosophy, > >etc. majors *I* knew that went on to grad school. They went on > >for the same reasons anyone in CS or EE or any other discipline > >would...often because they need the advanced degree for a job, > >and they have fallen into the inconvenient habit of eating daily. > >-- > > Hm... I would have to disagree. Seems that people who go to > undergraduate humanities are as described (rich parents, etc.), > and then they flock to computer science for a quickie masters > for the buck. Doctorates are another story. I mean, how can > you become a yuppie with an MA in history? And then there was Well, I have seen many extremely wealthy students in humanities school, but usually they are not the most talented of the creative artists. They usually have a certain degree of skill, but their work often lacks emotional depth. It's a shame that they often take away fellowships that could be awarded to low income students. As a woman I majored in EE first (and completed the M.S.) to do computer music and to be able to earn a living. Now I work part time and go to music school. Discrimination against women is far worse in humanities than in engineering because (1) in companies eventually the company has to make some money, and a woman can be rewarded for contributing to the company's earnings; (2) there are objective measurement standards in engineering (the program works or it doesn't) (3) many people in the humanities are less rational and more predujiced. Even if they pretend to be very liberal they often behave in a contradictory manner when it comes to women's rights.
sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) (07/27/85)
> > As a woman I majored in EE first (and completed the M.S.) to > do computer music and to be able to earn a living. Now I > work part time and go to music school. Oh, what are you now, a man? <-: <-: sorry, I couldn't resist. -- Sophie Quigley {allegra|decvax|ihnp4|linus|watmath}!utzoo!mnetor!sophie
ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) (07/31/85)
Well, folks, this here history/literature major is going to write her bachelor's thesis, get the hell out of school, and go play folk music on street corners...I'm computer illiterate and intend to stay that way! Besides, after three years at Reed, I have come to hate school, all school, any school, and particularly grad school. Anyone have a band that could use a hammer dulcimer? Ellen Eades -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Who's been repeating all that hard stuff to you?" "I read it in a book," said Alice. - - - - - - - - - - - - - tektronix!reed!ellen OR tektronix!reed!motel6!ellen
linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) (07/31/85)
In article <1610@mnetor.UUCP>, sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) writes: > > > > As a woman I majored in EE first (and completed the M.S.) to > > do computer music and to be able to earn a living. Now I > > work part time and go to music school. > > Oh, what are you now, a man? <-: <-: > sorry, I couldn't resist. > -- Why do you ask? Are you looking for a husband? Sorry, but I can resist.