rick@bmcg.UUCP (Rick Yarbrough) (09/12/85)
Hi There..... I posted to the net last week for the first time. I am afraid I didn't post correctly, and didn't get my mail address included correctly. I am still on the edge of my seat awaiting all the information I expected to receive from the men who seemed to know so much more about women than the women themselves. Actually, I expected to get some real scorchers(:-)) It's been a little slow around here and I expected to liven things up for myself. I also thought that if all those people were busy sending me flames in the mail, it might keep them off the net for at least a little while. (-:)) Now for a topic that I haven't seen here.... (Watch me blow it!!!) I would be interested to know peoples opinions on wheather or not they think we will have sexual equality in their lifetimes.(On the job, at home, socially) Things have been pointed out to me on this very net, which indicate (TO ME) that it is very unlikely that even the next generation will see it happen.... As a whole, people tend to balk at change, and when it (THREATENS) to change the total order of living (DESTROY MALE DOMINANCE).....Well you no longer have someone just resisting, you end up with counter- force..... I have one other question I would like peoples opinions on..... What should my feelings be towards the people who won't accept equality.....I mean the ones who think there is no reason for women to have an equal chance at life..... I already feel sorry for them (FOR WHAT I!!!!!!! CONSIDER THEIR IGNORANCE) but at the same time I still feel they have a right to their opinion. Am I being a hypocrite for letting them have their views, or does the fact that they won't accept my position of equality make them not worthy of my approval..... I already have my own thoughts on this subject.....I accept his right to his opinion (I restated the preceeding just so I wouldn't be misunderstood)..... I just wondered how others felt.... P.S. I don't think this is the particular net where I requested and received some information, but I have tried to send personal mail with no results.... I would like to thank ""Laurinda"" for the reference she sent me... FROM THE KEYBOARD OF: The High Flying, Low Diving, Sneaky & Conniving Road Dog
jeff@rtech.UUCP (Jeff Lichtman) (09/18/85)
> > Now for a topic that I haven't seen here.... > (Watch me blow it!!!) Don't worry about flames. Everything you say here seems thoughtful and non-judgemental. USENET is full of unreasonable people who don't care what others think. You seem to be a reasonable person who worries a little too much about what others think. > I would be interested to know > peoples opinions on wheather or not they think we will > have sexual equality in their lifetimes.(On the job, > at home, socially) I don't think that the culture of the United States will ever be homogeneous. My hope is that U.S. society will eventually become predominantly non-sexist. I have no idea whether this will happen while I am alive. There is progress, but it's slow. > I have one other question I would like peoples > opinions on..... What should my feelings be towards the > people who won't accept equality.....I mean the ones who > think there is no reason for women to have an equal > chance at life..... I already feel sorry for them (FOR > WHAT I!!!!!!! CONSIDER THEIR IGNORANCE) but at the same > time I still feel they have a right to their opinion. Am > I being a hypocrite for letting them have their views, or > does the fact that they won't accept my position of equality > make them not worthy of my approval..... I don't think this makes you a hypocrite. To believe that people don't have the right to their opinions, that one doesn't have the right to what goes on inside one's own head, is the essence of totalitarianism. What you are saying (I think) is that you would argue your opponents away from their positions, but you would not try to change their minds throug coercion. Let me say that I don't think this philosophy contradicts a belief in political action. There have to be laws and rules in society, and I feel I have just as much right to determine these rules as anyone else. For every issue, some group is going to win, and another is going to lose, and I don't see any reason why I (or anyone else) shouldn't have the right to fight for what I want, so long as I fight fairly. Those who lose their political battles will be unhappy about living in a society where things aren't being run the way they like, but at least they will be able to express their unhappiness and work for change. I just don't believe that the rules of society should extend to a person's beliefs. I don't want to live in a society where someone can be jailed or shot for using the wrong adjective. -- Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.) aka Swazoo Koolak {amdahl, sun}!rtech!jeff {ucbvax, decvax}!mtxinu!rtech!jeff