[net.women] what makes you feel feminine/ma

scott@cdp.UUCP (10/08/85)

Actually, men can wear skirts.  There's a man here in Palo Alto that
wears skirts often (of course, it's uncommon enough that I hear he was
on some talk show).  A man friend of mine used to wear dresses while
walking around town (of course, he occasioanlly got cat-calls).  I
wear a caftan in my house, and feel no qualms about wandering outside
in it to get the paper.

An easy way for a man to try wearing a skirt or dress in public is to
do it on Halloween (it's become my standard).  And don't wear all
kinds of makeup and absurd high heels and such, just a dress or skirt
(of course, unless you're lucky enough to have something with pockets,
you'll need a pocketbook).  The first time I did this was when I worked
at HP-Labs, and it was a blast.  I got a wolf-whistle from a woman
at my bank, got "stared-up" by the sexist pigs (which made me realize
that it's really "anything in a skirt"), and explained our newly
christened super-duper experimental capability-based ECL computer to
our lab director (he was too weirded-out to acknowledge verbally or
non-verbally what I was up to, which is sort of interesting - maybe
he thought it was OK).

An interesting similarity to experiencing being "stared-up".  On a lark,
I went to my tenth high-school reunion (very conservative, rural high-school)
in my blue jeans, wearing political buttons on my "Support Lesbian Mothers"
tee-shirt.  All night long people kept staring at my chest (my tee-shirt
emblem); I kept thinking "look up here where my face is, I'm up here".
I realized the next day that this is what women experience from men
who stare at their chests.

Scott Weikart
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hachiya@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (10/15/85)

I have many friends of the opposite sex with whom I have platonic
relationships with.  Usually, when I decide to pursue this kind of
friendship, I make it clear that it is strictly platonic.  So hopefully
there is no problem.  But sometimes I find they may want to be "more
than friends" when I don't.  

On the other hand, the people I "date" usually are not my friends 
initially.  It is assumed, more or less, that a sexual relationship
will develop if we get along well.

			       Donna H.

hachiya@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (10/23/85)

>I don't like my 3 piece suit any more then you like your skirt,
>blouse, and jacket.  Do you think men are actually dictating this
>fashion?  (If you really want to talk about discomfort we could talk
>about my tie and your high hell shoes (not a typo). (I usually wear
>a clip-on tie myself.  It looks funky but I can BREATH.))
>Society dictates fashion.  Men have been stuck with suits.


  Just an opinion...but sometimes, a man in a suit can be very 
appealing! :-)


Donna

hachiya@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (10/23/85)

> Cynthia Heimel (a very funny woman) claims the ideal man is
>filthy rich, gorgeous, can fuck for 12 hours at a time, has a lifetime
>supply of cocaine and brings home a dozen roses every night
>(or something like that.) 


Sounds good to me! :-)

Donna

becky@cylixd.UUCP (Becky Bates) (10/25/85)

> 
> > Cynthia Heimel (a very funny woman) claims the ideal man is
> >filthy rich, gorgeous, can fuck for 12 hours at a time, has a lifetime
> >supply of cocaine and brings home a dozen roses every night
> >(or something like that.) 
> 
> 
> Sounds good to me! :-)
> 
> Donna

All sounds good except for the cocaine part, might muck up the _uck
life a bit.  This really does not apply to the original question
and needs to be in net.jokes/net.singles.

>BECKY

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