[net.women] We don't need no STINKIN' BEACHES!

scott@hou2g.UUCP (Mr. Berry) (02/13/86)

>> Okay, boys and girls, listen up:  Anyone who goes to a public beach
>> and expects privacy is a fool.  They are called *public* beaches for
>> a reason.  If you go there you had better be prepared to handle
>> people attempting to engage you in conversation.  (And yes, many of
>> them will be hoping that that engaging you in conversation will
>> lead to engaging you in other activities.)
>> 
>> If you do not want to be approached by strangers, find yourself
>> a private beach, or a backyard where strangers are not welcome.

>> Snoopy
>> tektronix!tekecs!doghouse.TEK!snoopy

> 	A woman (or man) sitting alone at a singles bar or similar
> setting has indicated that he or she is interested in company.  That
> is NOT the case at public beaches.  Attitudes like that of Snoopy
> make me understand why some women get angry.

> Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL  ihnp4!ihlpg!tan

In an attempt to cool things off, let me give my interpretation of
what Snoopy said.  It seems to me he was making a statement about
how things ARE, not how they SHOULD BE (or how we'd like them to be).
We may not like to be disturbed at the beach, but it HAPPENS, just as
it does in many (most?) public places.  I *do* disagree with his 
suggestion about staying home.  You should go to the beach anyway, and
try to prevent the interruptions by letting undesirables know how you
feel--set a (new?) precedent.

Bill's statement, by the way, seems no different to me that saying
"a women sitting alone at the beach with her strap undone has indicated
she is interested in company".  That's BILL'S interpretation, and while
it's perhaps a more "accepted" one, it's still an interpretation.  I
might go into a bar just because I want a sandwich or a quick beer on 
the way home--not because I'm interested in company.  I can't very well
drag someone off the street to sit with me so I won't be seen as "interested
in company"--especially if I don't WANT company.  I *DO* understand that
someone in the bar may approach me, however, and I accept it.

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"Even though he's COMOTOSE, he must have activated his ability to
 project a mucous extradimensional substance into this reality."
		Scott J. Berry		ihnp4!hou2g!scott

tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) (02/14/86)

> > [Me]
> > 	A woman (or man) sitting alone at a singles bar or similar
> > setting has indicated that he or she is interested in company.  That
> > is NOT the case at public beaches.  Attitudes like that of Snoopy
> > make me understand why some women get angry.
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> [Scott Berry] 
> Bill's statement, by the way, seems no different to me that saying
> "a women sitting alone at the beach with her strap undone has indicated
> she is interested in company".  That's BILL'S interpretation, and while
> it's perhaps a more "accepted" one, it's still an interpretation.  I
> might go into a bar just because I want a sandwich or a quick beer on 
> the way home--not because I'm interested in company.  I can't very well
> drag someone off the street to sit with me so I won't be seen as "interested
> in company"--especially if I don't WANT company.  I *DO* understand that
> someone in the bar may approach me, however, and I accept it.
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I used the term "singles bar" in a generic sense to indicate a place
where people go to meet members of the opposite sex.  Since I have been
married for eighteen years and I don't drink alcohol, I am totally
ignorant of the situation in real "singles bars".  Perhaps I used
a bad example?
-- 
Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL  ihnp4!ihlpg!tan