ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) (02/12/86)
From tektronix!ihnp4!ltuxa!cuuxb!frye Tue Feb 11 22:53:12 PST 1986 I'd sure like to post this to net.women too. Only trouble is, I can't get at that group from here anymore. Some of you folks might want to point this article out to some of your friends who don't read net.legal too often. My sister had some trouble with her husband becoming abusive. She ran him off once for that crap. He got to acting like he'd cleaned up his act and she took him back. Everything went okay for a while. They started a business (bought a bar in Aurora) and they started to make a little money at it. It looked, for quite a while, that they were going to be just fine. Then my sister saw she was startingto miss money out of the register. She kept her eyes open for a while and found out it was going up her husband's nose. Sherry doesn't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to drugs. She ran him off again and told him to stay gone this time. He did for a couple of months. Then he started calling her and threatening to kill her and everyone she knows. She got in touch with me and I loaned her a gun. (But not until she went to the range with me.) About 2:30 or 3:00 in the morning on the 18th of December (the passed Dec.) Jackie kicked her door down and started thumping on her. She got away long enough to get the gun. Then she told him that all he had to do is walk out the door and disappear. Jackie grabbed his coat, but instead of putting it on, he slung it at her. She just opened up on him. That damned fool just kept coming at her until she had pumped five rounds into him. I guess he caught on that he might be hurt because he stop- ped then. He looked down at himself and said, Jesus Christ woman, you've got me shot full of holes. Maybe you should call an ambulance. Well, Jackie spent 10 hours under the knife where they put his arm back on. (One of the .357magnum rounds nearly took his arm off.) They had to let his lung pump itself back up where two rounds had poked entry and exit holes in it. They had to do a colostomy on him 'til his colon heals from the two rounds that tore it up. Meanwhile, my sister was charged with aggravated battery. The judge who was supposed to set her bail didn't buy that though. He let her walk on her signature. She's been work- ing two jobs trying to get out of debt and had to default on buying the bar. Her almost dead almost ex was out of the hospital in time to make a circus out of the first court date. The only constructive thingthey got done was to put a restraining order on him. He was not to contact her in any way, not even by phone. Well, he was on the phone to her the very first thing the next morning... See, we've heard from different people that Jackie did some nasty things just after Sherry kicked him out. He wants ab- solutely nothing to do with cops, shysters or bench pounders. Besides, she did him a favor. He's off funny white powders, he had to quit smoking and he lost some of the fat that caused him to weigh 230 pounds. He just gave up drinking too while he was at it. I have to think that the bullets through his colon must have been like a lobotomy for him. Meanwhile, a new court date was set up because he disrupted the last one by yelling at the State's Attourney a lot. The new court date was yesterday (02/06/86). They actually got something done then. They talked to Jackie and Sherry and got both sides of the story. Jackie seemed to be in one of his rare states of having his mind with him instead of leaving it at home. He told the judge that he did kick the door in and start beating on Sherry. If he hadn't done that, she would not have shot him. He could press charges andget the case into criminal court (these two thingies were just hearings), but the judge thought the ground Jackie was standing on was pretty wobbly. The State's Attourney was so mad at Jackie from the trouble Jackie gave him over the whole thing...I think he had figured out why the fool got shot in the firts place. So, the State's Attourney said he'd let it slide if Jackie would. That'd be one way Jackie would be out of the guys hair. So, they turned Sherry loose. What worries both of us is the fact that Jackie could just take matters into his own hands. He's been known to do stupid things like that. The two lawyers who represented Sherry had already thought of that. They've already started to do whatever it takes to get Sherry's gun back. Meanwhile, I've loaned her another one...And, I doubt anybody will think too much about it if he kickes her door down again. Also, she already knows where not to shoot that fool. She'll try some new places if there is a next time. She also knows I was right when I told her not to stop shoot- ing 'til he stops coming towards her. There is something a lot of folks don't know. You can take some pretty big iron to someone's person. And, I'll pretty much garauntee you that you can kill someone with any gun. Only problem is, what's he doing while he's dying? Size of the gun doesn't matter too much. If the fool doesn't know he's hurt, he's liable to keep trying to do whatever it is you shot him for doing. You can't stop 'til he stops. They tell cops that right off. Why is it that they don't expect a civilian to know anything like that. That was one of the questions the S.A had regarding the case. She told the guy that Jackie weighed in at 230 and she only weighs 110. She thought it would be better to keep shooting than to let the fool get a hold of her. I'm glad it didn't get as far as criminal court, but Sherry knows so many people who don't trust Jackie anymore (they used to). Her attourneys wouldn't have much trouble finding witnesses to back Sherry up. Most folks who know her know she hasn't even had a traffic ticket in the past 10 years. They also know she doesn't even like guns. They also know that fact won't prevent her from keeping one around from now on...And I still think Colt and Smith&Wesson can do wonders to counteract vast size and weight differences. The only thing I must say is, if you decide to pick up some iron, realize that you will have to answer a lot of questions if you use it to defend life and limb. Please be damned careful and considerate. You may be making a life or death judgement. That can be real tough if you're talking about someone elses life that you may have to take. Its bad enough just having to worry about your own life. 'Course, guns aren't any more dangerous than cars. If you feel somewhat out of control on a particular day, that's the best time to leave the car parked and the gun in the drawer with your underwear or socks. Ya'll keep yer powder dry an' yer flint sharp... Ol' Grizzly. If ya got any questions, just ask... -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Who's been repeating all that hard stuff to you?" "I read it in a book," said Alice. - - - - - - - - - - - - -
linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) (02/27/86)
> > I'm glad it didn't get as far as criminal court, but Sherry > knows so many people who don't trust Jackie anymore (they > used to). Her attourneys wouldn't have much trouble finding > witnesses to back Sherry up. Most folks who know her know > she hasn't even had a traffic ticket in the past 10 years. > They also know she doesn't even like guns. They also know > that fact won't prevent her from keeping one around from now > on...And I still think Colt and Smith&Wesson can do wonders > to counteract vast size and weight differences. The only thing > I must say is, if you decide to pick up some iron, realize > that you will have to answer a lot of questions if you use > it to defend life and limb. Please be damned careful and > considerate. You may be making a life or death judgement. > That can be real tough if you're talking about someone elses > life that you may have to take. Its bad enough just having > to worry about your own life. > > > Ya'll keep yer powder dry an' yer flint sharp... > Ol' Grizzly. > > If ya got any questions, just ask... And wouldn't moving to another city, changing her name, and dying her hair (and maybe a nose job) be a lot easier solution?