fateman%ucbkim@Berkeley@sri-unix.UUCP (08/12/83)
From: fateman%ucbkim@Berkeley (Richard Fateman) [Reprinted from the Info-Graphics discussion list.] [...] In answer to Fred's original query, (I replied to him personally earlier ), Franz has been running on a SUN since January, 1983. We find it runs Lisp faster than a VAX 750, and with expected performance improvements, may be close to a VAX 780. (= about 2.5 to 4 times slower than a KL-10). This makes it almost irrelevant using Franz on a VAX. Yet more specifically in answer to FRD's question, Franz on the SUN has full access to the graphics software on it, and one could set up inter-process communication between a Franz on a VAX and something else (e.g. Franz) on a SUN. A system for shipping smalltalk pictures to SUNs runs at UCB. Franz runs on other 68000 UNIX workstations, including Pixel, Dual, and Apple Lisa. Both Interlisp-D and MIT LispMachine Lisp have more highly developed graphics stuff at the moment. As far as other lisps, I would expect PSL and T, which run on Apollo Domain 68000 systems, to be portable towards the SUN, and I would not be surprised if other systems turn up. For the moment though, Franz seems to be alone. Most programs run on the SUN without change (e.g. Macsyma).