okeefe.r.a.%edxa@sri-unix.UUCP (11/08/83)
From: O'KEEFE HPS (on ERCC DEC-10) <okeefe.r.a.@edxa> -------- There was a short letter about this in CACM about 6 or 7 years ago. I haven't got the reference, but the argument goes something like this. 1. In order to compute, you need a device with at least two states that can change from one state to another. 2. Information theory (or quantum mechanics or something, I don't remember which) shows that any state change must be accompanied by a transfer of at least so much energy (a definite figure was given). 3. Energy contributes to the stress-energy tensor just like mass and momentum, so the device must be at least so big or it will undergo gravitational collapse (again, a definite figure). 4. It takes light so long to cross the diameter of the device, and this is the shortest possible delay before we can definitely say that the device is in its new state. 5. Therefore any physically realisable device (assuming the validity of general relativity, quantum mechanics, information theory ...) cannot switch faster than (again a definite figure). I think the final figure was 10^-43 seconds, but it's been a long time since I read the letter. I have found the discussion of "what is intelligence" boring, confused, and unhelpful. If people feel unhappy working in AI because we don't have an agreed definition of the I part (come to that, do we *really* have an agreed definition of the A part either? if we come across a planet inhabited by metallic creatures with CMOS brains that were produced by natural processes, should their study belong to AI or xenobiology, and does it matter?) why not just change the name of the field, say to "Epistemics And Robotics". I don't give a tinker's curse whether AI ever produces "intelligent" machines; there are tasks that I would like to see computers doing in the service of humanity that require the representation and appropriate deployment of large amounts of knowledge. I would be just as happy calling this AI, MI, or EAR. I think some of the contributors to this group are suffering from physics envy, and don't realise what an operational definition is. It is a definition which tells you how to MEASURE something. Thus length is operationally defined by saying "do such and such. Now, length is the thing that you just measured." Of course there are problems here: no amount of operational definition will justify any connection between "length-measured-by-this-foot-rule-six-years-ago" and "length-measured- by-laser-interferometer-yesterday". The basic irrelevance is that an operational definition of say light (what your light meter measures) doesn't tell you one little thing about how to MAKE some light. If we had an operational definition of intelligence (in fact we have quite a few, and like all operational definitions, nothing to connect them) there is no reason to expect that to help us MAKE something intelligent.