joel@decwrl.UUCP (Joel McCormack) (03/14/85)
I think the Grateful Dead are okay, but I don't care to read about Jerry
Garcia's bust and requests for a subgroup all the time.
If these people are given a subgroup, why, think of the decrease in traffic
on net.music: no more sporadic outbursts of
Subject: Re: net.music.dead
messages!
Including useless messages like this one.
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- Joel McCormack {ihnp4 decvax ucbvax allegra}!decwrl!joel
joel@decwrl.arpaellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) (03/15/85)
Why a newsgroup for ONE SINGLE ROCK BAND??
If any variety of music deserves its own newsgroup, I'd suspect that
style would be jazz. The idea here is to lure back jazz buffs who have
fled net.music.
And if the idea is to cut down the number of articles to net.music, a
subgroup with real potential for an even splitting would be
net.progressive.rock (net.music.progrock?) Or perhaps net.music.genesis,
provided Yes/ELP/&c. submissions went there too.
BTW, I seem to recall TWO past newsgroups for deadheads -- net.dead
and net.gdead. They were even less popular than net.rec.birds.
Anyway, the deadheads I know are far more openminded than most people.
Frankly, I'd miss them.
-michaelsunny@sun.uucp (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) (03/15/85)
> Why a newsgroup for ONE SINGLE ROCK BAND?? > Well, you see, it isn't one single rock band. It's the only rock band. Also, it's multiplicity is: The Grateful Dead The Jerry Garcia Band Bob Wier's ACE The Rythym Devils And it only *appears* that the net.music.gdead groups have died, because the Dead don't put out albums to pontificate endlessly about like most of the drivel in net.music, they instead endlessly tour giving concerts, so contributions tend to be lacking between concerts. Unless you're into trading bootleg tapes of concerts (bootleg: tapes made by members of the audience, who set up their mike stands in the designated "tapers section" of the "seating" (nobody sits through a dead concert, so that's a misnomer)). Let me try this another way: One of my friends has a collection of cassette tapes. It's comprised of maybe 100 tapes of various rock groups, and over 350 tapes of Grateful Dead concerts. And you want to know why the Dead deserve their own newsgroup? Because they're a category of music unto themselves, unlike any other. There's NOTHING like a Grateful Dead concert. I've been to 7 Dead concerts in the last 4 months and have not been to concerts by ANY other group since The Police broke up. Another approach. If there was a net.music.gdead active again, the only musical groups I'd subscribe to would be that and net.music.jazz Deadicatedly yours, Sunny -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)
cliff@unmvax.UUCP (03/19/85)
> Why a newsgroup for ONE SINGLE ROCK BAND?? Perhaps the reason is the desire to discuss non-musical aspects of the group. I can't speak for everyone, but *I* was glad to hear that Jerry wore a non-black shirt to a concert. I have fairly complete playlists from 1975 to present that many people have asked be posted (in compressed form) that do not really belong in net.sources or net.music. I can think of many other dead related topics that would not be appropriate in net.music (drug consumption, notorious busts, growing plants with _Seastones_, stoning plants with seagrow, seeing stoned plants, ticket acquisition techniques, dead lore, etc.). Truth is, for a variety of reasons, the Dead aren't the best at what they do, they are the only ones that do what they do. With the Dead finally restoring taping to an above the board (pardon the pun) practice, it would be nice to have some taping discussions... > If any variety of music deserves its own newsgroup, I'd suspect that > style would be jazz. The idea here is to lure back jazz buffs who have > fled net.music. I didn't bring back the idea of net.{music.,}dead until I saw how net.music.synth brought lots of discussion out of the closet. The amount of synth related traffic in net.music was nothing compared to what is in net.music.synth. There is good reason to believe that a sanctioned net.{music.,}dead would have the same property. > And if the idea is to cut down the number of articles to net.music, a > subgroup with real potential for an even splitting would be > net.progressive.rock (net.music.progrock?) Or perhaps net.music.genesis, > provided Yes/ELP/&c. submissions went there too. I don't think the idea is to cut down the number of articles to net.music. > BTW, I seem to recall TWO past newsgroups for deadheads -- net.dead > and net.gdead. They were even less popular than net.rec.birds. I believe both were not *officially sanctioned* newsgroups and the lack of traffic was related to the belief that the groups would be shut down at any time... (which they were). > Anyway, the deadheads I know are far more openminded than most people. > Frankly, I'd miss them. Thanks for the good word. I can't speak for the rest, but I would still be here, 'though I can't say I have contributed much to net.music, but then again, my mind is cottage cheese from too many visits with Mr. Syd (chuckle). > -michael Summary: *I* would prefer to see a single group for Grateful Dead related topics. Personally, I think net.dead would be more appropriate then net.music.dead, for the content would surely not be limited to musical discussions. The Dead really are a special band (are there any other bands with 24 hour hotlines for latest info {(415) 457-6388, (201) 777-8653} or that actively support taping shows or even have a sizeable following of concert attendees that routinely travel across country to catch shows?) and merit a newsgroup devoted to related activities. There is no snobbery involved, nor is there a belief that net.dead would drastically cut back the number of articles in net.music. [p.s. I will probably not be hitting Irvine because of conflicts with taking the GRE--see you at Stanford instead (I wouldn't have been able to afford both Irvine and Stanford anyway)] --Cliff [Matthews] {purdue, cmcl2, ihnp4}!lanl!unmvax!cliff {csu-cs, pur-ee, convex, gatech, ucbvax}!unmvax!cliff 4744 Trumbull S.E. - Albuquerque NM 87108 - (505) 265-9143