[net.ai] naming names

LRC.Throop@UTEXAS-20.ARPA (07/23/84)

From:  David Throop <LRC.Throop@UTEXAS-20.ARPA>

  I have started naming names.
  It started with  the observation  that since I  am David  Throop, and  David
Throop is my name, then  it follows that I am  my name.  There is obviously  a
flaw here; I am not my  name.  I mean, if I changed  my name I would still  be
myself.  So it is  perhaps more clear to  say that I am  David Throop, and  my
name is "David Throop".  (This is still off.  I mean, "David Throop" is  still
a character string, a sequence of letters, and my name is something other than
a sequence of letters.   "David Throop" has  a value that is  a name, and  the
name has a value that is a person, and I am that person.)  [Are you still with
me?]
  That is, to say of course, that D - a - v - i - d - - T - h - r - o - o - p
is still another character string that denotes a character string that denotes
a  name  that  denotes  me.   (The  string  "me"  denoting  the  same  person,
coincidently, as is denoted by my name.)
  Which is all  prologue to the  question of whether  I could give  my name  a
name.  Not  the name  "David Throop",  of course.   That's already  taken.   I
considered naming my name "david throop" but I felt that this might cause some
confusion.  (And raises the  ugly question of how  to pronounce it.  You  see,
the "h" silent  in my  last name,  and though  "Throop" is  pronounced with  a
silent "h" I'm not sure that "throop" would be also.)
  [Which brings up the side  issue of the version of  my name as a  pronounced
set of sounds.   And on  reflection, I'm  not sure  whether the  value of  the
character string "David Throop" is a sound sequence, or my name itself.  Or it
may be that the value of the  sound sequence is the character string.  Or  its
more likely that the sound sequence and the character string are two  separate
objects that happen to have the same value.  Although, curiously, you can  get
from one to the other  and back again without  ever encountering me.  I  mean,
even if you didn't know me, even if you didn't know that "David Throop" was  a
name, you could  pronounce it and  if you heard  it you could  spell it.   But
you'd probably have  a little  trouble with the  silent "h".   It persists  in
injecting itself into the whole problem.]
  But back to giving my name a  name.  People always say, "Well I'm not  about
to start  naming names",  and I  think the  forgoing illustrates  some of  the
problems away from which  people are shying.   But then, how  are we going  to
talk about my name if it is nameless?
  For instance, if I tell you that I don't want to sully my good name, and you
reply, "What good name?" how can I reply?  If I reply, "Why, David Throop,  of
course," then  I haven't  refered to  my  name, I've  refered to  myself.   Of
course, I could reply "Why, "David Throop", of course" but those little  quote
marks are kind  of hard  to see in  a spoken  retort, and that's  the kind  of
challenge I reply to immediately.  It wouldn't  do to have a letter show up  a
week later saying "Why, "David Throop", of course."  One needs to defend one's
name promptly.  Some people have a cute  way of waving their hands in the  air
in order to indicate those  marks, but it kind of  takes the force out of  the
retort, and I must remember that my good name is on the line.
  So I've decided to name  my name something else.   Although I saw some  good
ideas in a book  named "Your Baby's Name",  I steered clear.  "Jason"  sounded
nice, but somebody might  think that that was somebody's name.  And it's  not.
It's a name's name.  I decided on G00483; as near as I can tell it's not being
used for anything else right now.  And it sounds like a name's name.
  But this brings up a question.  Is G00483 my name's name?  Or is it just  my
name for my name? (my own name, that is.)  After all, my name doesn't have any
need for its name.   I'm the one that  needs to know its  name, so that I  can
refer to it when you question my good name.  Since it doesn't name itself  and
I do, I'll just leave it as my name for the name of myself.
  Look, I realize this is all rather complex and  I  don't want to run it into
the ground.  Just  understand.  I've started  naming names.  I've  got a  good
one.  And for now, I'm retaining custody.
                                                 Sincerely,
                                                  David Throop