Woody.pasa@XEROX.ARPA (07/30/84)
There's this accounting computer at the Santa Fe, (where my dad works), and before it was installed, accounting was something which needed a very intelligent person to do. It required a high level of intelligence to keep the books balanced, the type of intelligence a machine could never have. The Santa Fe uses a computer to keep all their books now. But note that the discussion with accounting is now not "The computer is intelligent--look, it can keep the accounting books for an entire company", but "Gee, anyone can keep the accounting books; even a computer." The Turing test is a poor test, granted; but can there be a more generalized test to tell if a computer is truly intelligent? With the Turing test, we can give the computer and the human at the other end a test in math, understanding, and creativity; we could even talk about the presidential elections; we're not restricted to the things that have been discussed earlier. As for hooking up a camera to the computer and using visual identification as a test for intelligence: I know of a few blind people who would be hard-pressed to past that test. Sure, it takes a lot to be able to see, but then most mice can see, and some humans cannot; does that make the mice smarter than the humans? - Bill Woody 1-60 Caltech Pasadena, CA 91126