[net.college] Scheduling and hardware

jreuter@cincy.UUCP (Jim Reuter) (05/09/84)

Class scheduling at the University of Cincinnati is also done
completely by computer, though people get closed out of classes
somewhat frequently because the idiots who prepare class sizes and
such don't always seems to understand continuation courses and
college required courses.

In comparison to the article from osu-dbs!paul, our "campus
computer" is also an Amdahl 470 which becomes completely overloaded
at the end of every quarter (two hour turnaround for the fast job
classes).  It is also used for the university DP needs, which is
more than a full load.  Until recently, that's all there was.  They
recently bought two VAX 750's for interactive use by students.  They
removed the majority of the card punching and sorting equipment less
than two years ago.  The engineering college also bought a 750. 
(Too bad they all run VMS).  The only Unix machines are the two in
Electrical Eng. (this is one), one in Mechanical Eng., (all of these
are PDP-11's), and a Pixel 68000 in Classics, all bought from grant
funding with no university support.

Now the Comp. Center wants to buy another big IBM batch beast to
meet their 'future needs'.  The Comp. Center staff is rather
incompetent, usually not capable of getting a job with the local
businesses whose DP centers have similar setups (in the rare
event that they actually get fired).

I would like to know if other colleges have similarly backward
computing centers which are living in the dark ages of computing. Are
things really this bad at other schools?

	Jim Reuter
	Univ. of Cincinnati ECE
	(decvax!cincy!jreuter)

paul@osu-dbs.UUCP (Paul Placeway) (05/11/84)

Gees, I feel sorry for all you people who are wasting time hand-scheduling.
Here at Ohio State (I think that were the second-largest single campus in
the states), we fill out a schedule request about the 6th week in the
quarter, and get our approved schedule with our fee cards about the 10th
week.  No fuss, no muss.  I am an undergraduate and have been closed out of
a course only once at the beginning of my freshman year.  Yes, this
scheduling is computerized.

On the darker side of things, the available hardware for undergrads is
really bad.  Almost all courses are tought on an Amdhal 470 in batch (cards
and (fidjet with) widjet) or almost batch (next to Unix, Wylbur is
*nothing*).  The only reason I get to play with any reasonable computers is
because I got very lucky and got a job as an operator on this research
machine (this one).  Things are getting better, but when the Computer Center
wants to push an IBM 4341 (16M core, ~2 gig disk) rather than supporting the
CIS department DEC 2060 (3.5M core, ~500M disk) that is used 4 (yes four)
times as much, something is *VERY* wrong.  How nice it would be to be a
private college with mega-bucks (see and earlier article...) 8-).

*** the opinions above are my own and not those of my employer... ***

"I even like the chicken if		Paul W. Placeway
 the sauce is not too blue..."		The Ohio State University
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