wpl@burdvax.UUCP (William Loftus) (08/07/84)
A question for the masses:
How does Villanova University rate in the real world? (Both worlds
business and educational)
just asking
wpldaryoush@sdcsvax.UUCP (Daryoush Morshedian) (08/09/84)
I know a great deal about the universities in Pennsylvania. The best of course is University of Pennsylvania (at Phil.) That's where I'll be going this Fall for a Ph.D. in Computer and Information Science. It ranks "Most competitive", i.e. just like MIT, Harvard, etc. Next in line is "Highly competitive". In this group are universities such as Colgate, UC Berkeley, Washington U. etc. Next in line is "Very competitive" with universities such as University of Texas, UC San Diego, and other UC's. Villanova U. (in Penn.) is also in this group. Other lower ranks are "Competitive", "Less competitive", and "Non-competitive". Undergraduate Stats: SAT: Math 560 Verbal 500 7303 applied, 3619 accepted Grad: 1440 Men, 1172 Women GRE scores are not public. Tuition: $4550 --Daryoush Morshedian
stank@uiucdcs.UUCP (08/18/84)
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uiucdcs!stank Aug 17 16:54:00 1984
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The problem with the last response is that it only deals with the
schools as undergraduate institutions. In fact, it only deals with
how selective they are in taking undergraduates. This sort of measure
tends to make state universities look bad, since, given their state-run
nature, they tend to take more in-state undergraduate students, and can be
less selective in doing so than private schools.
Now, if we wish to speak about the graduate part of the various instiutuons,
the picture changes. In engineering, with which I am most familiar, no
one in his right mind would rate, say, Penn ahead of Berekely or
even UCLA. My pick for the top ten engineering schools (in alphabetical
order) are:
Berkeley
Cal Tech
CMU
Cornell
Harvard
Illinois
MIT
Stanford
UCLA
Wisconsin
There might be room for slight changes in this list, but I think that it
jibes with most of the surveys I've read. (I don't have them right on
hand, hence my lack of citations for my list. If anyone challenges me,
however, I shall plunge into the library and dig out the proper material.)
About Villanova: on a graduate engineering level, it will not make the
top 50 in the country. I am not certain, but I strongly suspect that this
will also be true in other disciplines. I don't mean to knock that school,
but there are an whole lot of pretty good schools out there ahead of it.
I grew up in the Philadelphia area, and went to St. Joseph's College
for 3 years. I then moved away and have lived in a fair number of other
places since. From my experience, I can tell you that the opinions
that Philadelphians have about the "Big Five" schools (except Penn, which
is a fine school) are very much inflated. Thus, don't ask for objective
opinions about Villanova in Philadelphia.
Stanley J. Krolikoski
U. of Illinois at UC
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