[net.college] Shoelaces

marie@harvard.ARPA (Marie Desjardins) (11/13/84)

At least if you learn to tie shoelaces, you know how to tie a knot.
Unless you plan to put Velcro on the ends of every string in the
world...

	Marie desJardins
	marie@harvard

allenm@ittvax.UUCP (Allen Matsumoto) (11/13/84)

> At least if you learn to tie shoelaces, you know how to tie a knot.
> Unless you plan to put Velcro on the ends of every string in the
> world...
> 
> 	Marie desJardins
> 	marie@harvard

I didn't read the original of the shoelace controversy, but I infer
someone noted that IT ISN'T NECESSARY TO FORCE EVERYONE TO LEARN THE
SKILL OF TYING SHOES.  I agree with that.  (If my inference is wrong,
then I'm just agreeing with myself, but I've done that before.)

IF SECURING SHOES IS THE GOAL, ANY MEANS SHOULD SUFFICE.  Else we could
argue against slip-on shoes, cowboy boots, zipper boots, etc.  How many
adults refrain from using <generic term for slip-on shoes> fearing loss
of knot-tying skill.  

IF KNOT TYING PRACTICE IS IMPORTANT, we are missing lots of
opportunities.  How many adults wear bow ties for knot-tying practice.
Are you willing to forgo tape, velcro, snaps, buttons, ...?

Think how much practice we could all get if tying knots were the only
socially approved means of securing EVERYTHING.  The Boy Scouts would have
to stop giving merit badges for knot-tying if we all were so proficient.
(I do tie my own shoes, and bow ties.  And I used to be a Boy Scout and
a climber.  I even tie packages when I mail them.  But I like having a
choice.) 

IF PEOPLE NEED TO TIE KNOTS, THEY CAN ALWAYS LEARN HOW TO.  Knot tying
is not a difficult skill to acquire.  It just takes practice and/or
motivation.  People seem to learn best when self-motivated.  A need to
tie knots is better motivation than having shoes with laces.  Other
shoes don't require laces, and even shoes with laces don't need to be
tied to function for many occasions (kids do that, you know).

There is a tendency in this society to justify lots of things as a means
to some other related thing.  CUT IT OUT!  Can't we factor shoes from
knots, church attendance from morality, test scores from education,
manners from civility, etc. ad nauseum.

The conventional way of securing shoes had knot practice as a useful
side effect.  Let us not upgrade the side effect into the goal when the
original goal is bypassed by technology.  (Some similar comment could be
made here about calculators and computers, but I don't want to get into
all that.)

Yours for a well-partitioned goal set.
-- 
			Allen Matsumoto
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