[net.college] Info on USC wanted.

mikec@reed.UUCP (Michael Cooper) (01/15/85)

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I am looking for information on the University of Southern California from
present undergrads or alumni.  During xmas break I visited the campus, but
did not have a formal tour nor access to anyone with the answers to the
following questions:

1) In one of the engineering handbooks I was given it stated the computing
   facilities as having an IBM, some large DEC systems, and 20 VAX 750's
   running UNIX and VMS.  My question is; how many (750's) are running UNIX?

2) What kind of access (how hard is it to get the access) to these UNIX
   machines for a freshman?  And the other machines?

3) Campus life looked fairly interesting.  Any comments?

Any general comments would be greatly welcomed.


					Michael Cooper

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tli@uscvax.UUCP (Tony Li) (01/19/85)

> I am looking for information on the University of Southern California from
> present undergrads or alumni.  During xmas break I visited the campus, but
> did not have a formal tour nor access to anyone with the answers to the
> following questions:

Ok, I'm happy to help, if you'll put up with a grad student/TA/instructor.

> 1) In one of the engineering handbooks I was given it stated the computing
>    facilities as having an IBM, some large DEC systems, and 20 VAX 750's
>    running UNIX and VMS.  My question is; how many (750's) are running UNIX?

I get the idea that you're an undergrad.  If so, there are currently 2 750's 
running UNIX that you'd have access to.  There are two more for the CS
grad's and faculty.  We expect to be installing more Unix machines shortly
(we've got the grants in hand, and we know what we're getting, they just
haven't been delivered yet).

> 2) What kind of access (how hard is it to get the access) to these UNIX
>    machines for a freshman?  And the other machines?

First, you have to take a programming class that is using UNIX.  Once 
you do, there's a $70 lab fee.  No problem.  BTW, currently, the two student
UNIX machines are used for upper division type courses.

> 3) Campus life looked fairly interesting.  Any comments?

Ummm...  That depends on who you are.  If you come from a preppie/Valley
Girl/Hollywood backround, you'd be right at home.  I see that you're from
Portland...  I think you might like it if you stay away from the frats.
There's lots to do, and lots to see.  The frats are BAD NEWS!  AVOID!  This
is a large generalization.  There are of course, some really nice frats, but
by and large the biggest news that seems to come off of frat row is the news
of another suspension.

> Any general comments would be greatly welcomed.
> 					Michael Cooper

Well, gee...  I could go on for days and days about politics, classes, etc.
Hmmm...  Well, USC is currently undergoing a serious lack of decent hackers.
So much so that we're having trouble finding operators and other support
staff for our systems.  The lower division weed-out courses are crowded with
the large numbers of liberal-arts majors who 'want to learn a trade'.  

As with all university computing facilities, USC's computers are hopelessly
overcrowded.  That's why I'm hacking at 1:23am on the faculty Vax....

I'm not terribly impressed with USC's undergrad program.  We've recently had
a significant attrition problem (with the professors), and that's been
accompanied by a change of dept. chair, with all that goes with it.  As with
all dynamic systems, it's not stable, but does look to be improving.

I'd say that USC is a reasonable choice if (1) you're not afraid of big
schools, (2) you're bright, (3) you're not afraid of down-town LA (don't
worry about the smog, that's not important...), (4) you're not the greatest
student in all of Oregon (if you are, there are better schools).  We do look
for bright students, and we do try to encourage them as best we can.  The
work is tough, as anywhere, but definitely reasonable.

If you come here, look me up...  I'm in Salvatori 229.  (213) 743-7995
-- 
Tony Li ;-)		Usc Computer Science
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