rose@sdcsvax.UUCP (Dan Rose) (11/13/85)
In article <848@wdl1.UUCP> kimery@wdl1.UUCP writes: >[Excerpts request for housing info for daughter going to Purdue]. >...For a co-ed dorm try one of the H-halls (try Harrison). These are >clean, and contained very friendly people, at least when I lived there they >did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You've got to be kidding. Escorts? Men and women in different halves of the building? Was this twenty-five years ago? :-) My idea of a coed dorm is either [1] men and women on alternate floors (makes bathroom arrangements easier), or [2] men and women on the same floor but in different suites, or [3] men and women in the same suites but in different rooms. These all existed when I was an undergraduate, (a couple years ago) though the second was by far the most prevalent. Of course, there were plenty of cases of "unofficial" coed rooming arrangements. Escorts? Do they do bed checks, too? :-) Seriously, could somebody who went to Purdue elaborate on this? Besides, isn't it a little hypocritical to have neo-Victorian dorm life and then have fraternities on campus? -- Dan (not Broadway Danny) Rose rose@UCSD
srp@houligan.UUCP (S R Pietrowicz) (11/21/85)
>>[Excerpts request for housing info for daughter going to Purdue]. >>...For a co-ed dorm try one of the H-halls (try Harrison). These are >>clean, and contained very friendly people, at least when I lived there they >>did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of the > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >You've got to be kidding. Escorts? Men and women in different halves >of the building? Was this twenty-five years ago? :-) >Escorts? Do they do bed checks, too? :-) Seriously, could somebody >who went to Purdue elaborate on this? Besides, isn't it a little >hypocritical to have neo-Victorian dorm life and then have fraternities >on campus? I just graduated from Purdue (Go Boilers!) last May, and lived all four years in a dorm. The escort policy is pretty much ignored in the male dorms and in the male half of the "co-ed" dorms. The escorts aren't really even needed in the women's half of the dorm. If I was ever stopped, which wasn't too often, all I ever had to do was explain I was on my way to my girlfriend's room, or on my way out. BUT, ever so often there was a female counselor that would get mad. Three friends of mine were caught one night sneaking out of Harrison. The counsler had been waiting by the door! That, thank God, was the exception, and not the normal habit of the counseling staff. Pretty much the counselor rule of thumb is "If I don't see it or hear it, I won't come to investigate it." You might be interested in knowing that Purdue has a guest hour policy in the dorms too. 12:30 am to 9:30 am Sunday-Thursday, 2:00 am to 9:30 Friday and Saturday. The above rule of thumb applied to this too! About every year that I went there, students tried to change this guest hours policy. Big petitions and the whole deal. They were always squashed out by the administration of the dorms. (Almost always because of the rich Alumns). Hey! Don't get Purdue wrong. How many people know that one of it's dorms, Cary Quad, is the home of the annual Nude Olympics?
ahu@pucc-k (eckhardt) (11/21/85)
Followup-To: Keywords: In article <1202@sdcsvax.UUCP> rose@sdcsvax.UUCP (Dan rose) writes: >In article <848@wdl1.UUCP> kimery@wdl1.UUCP writes: >>[Excerpts request for housing info for daughter going to Purdue]. >>did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of the >>building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. >You've got to be kidding. Escorts? Men and women in different halves >of the building? Was this twenty-five years ago? :-) > it was true 25 years ago and is still true today. > >Escorts? Do they do bed checks, too? :-) as of 4 years ago, in at least one all-female dorm, they still had room checks at 11 pm (although I can't remember which one, since I only lived in a 'dorm' (hah) for 2 weeks). >who went to Purdue elaborate on this? Besides, isn't it a little >hypocritical to have neo-Victorian dorm life and then have fraternities >on campus? The dorm system does alot to encourage the Greek system here....I mean, we've got something like 75 sororities and fraternaties. Purdue admittedly tries for a "in loco parentis" handling of Midwestern morality...our student union's hotel doesn't allow unmarried couples of any age to register or get a room together... this became an issue in the campus paper recently when somebody's mother and her boyfriend were forced to get separate rooms (or probably, go someplace else). Personally, I've lived off-campus for the whole of my (too-long) existance here (except for those first two weeks) and never regretted it nor experienced a rough time meeting people, aside from my first semester....when I was abit homesick and lonely. About those two weeks in a dorm...we had 4 girls living in a two room "apartment". All four of us slept in the bedroom equipped with 2 bunk beds, a mirror, 2 dressers, and 1 closet. It was quite a change for someone accustomed to having their own room. On top of that, Freshman and Sophmores weren't allowed to have cars on campus (this has since changed, I believe) including the dorms, so I had a choice of a) "boarding" my car in a garage for $60/month, b) parking it in the pay -by-the-day campus garage or c) accumulating tickets daily (off campus is mostly 2-hour parking). I moved off campus and was actually closer to my classes, had a driveway for my car, my own room, and could eat when I was hungry. And it didn't cost any more than what I had been paying for the dorm. (Although I did have to do the dishes.) I guess its obvious what I think of 'dorm life'. Of course, being in a dorm for your first semester does have benefits...you get to be surrounded by kids who are as lonely and anxious to make friends as you are. In my case, I made friends mostly with the upper classmen who were living off campus. And I joined all kinds of clubs (though never a sorority because my dorm mates told me I'd have a dress code to adhere to and a fraternity that I'd be expected to *befriend*) which alleviated the sense of isolation you can get living off campus. Purdue is fortunate in that most clubs aren't at all strict about attendance ...if you show up, fine, if not, well, see you next time. And there are several rooms near the student union designated for off-campus people to study, relax, etc. > Dan (not Broadway Danny) Rose > rose@UCSD
ahg@pucc-k (mayer) (12/02/85)
In article <190@houligan.UUCP> srp@houligan.UUCP (S R Pietrowicz) writes: >>>[Excerpts request for housing info for daughter going to Purdue]. >>>...For a co-ed dorm try one of the H-halls (try Harrison). These are >>>clean, and contained very friendly people, at least when I lived there they >>>did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of the >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >BUT, ever so often there was a female counselor that would get mad. Three >friends of mine were caught one night sneaking out of Harrison. The counsler >had been waiting by the door! That, thank God, was the exception, and not >the normal habit of the counseling staff. Pretty much the counselor rule >of thumb is "If I don't see it or hear it, I won't come to investigate it." > I still live in Harrison, and guest hours is strictly enforced on the womens half so are escorts. On the mens side the escort policy is not as strictly enforced. (NOTE: This all depends on how ultra-conservative your counselor is) >You might be interested in knowing that Purdue has a guest hour policy in >the dorms too. 12:30 am to 9:30 am Sunday-Thursday, 2:00 am to 9:30 Friday >and Saturday. The above rule of thumb applied to this too! > >About every year that I went there, students tried to change this guest hours >policy. Big petitions and the whole deal. They were always squashed out by >the administration of the dorms. (Almost always because of the rich Alumns). > >Hey! Don't get Purdue wrong. How many people know that one of it's NEWS!! Purdue Residence Hall Administration formed a special task force to STOP once and for all the Nude Olympics. I hope all of you alumni out there let them know how you feel. -- Andy Mayer Purdue University {harpo,ihnp4,allegra,decvax}!pur-ee!{pucc-h,pucc-i,pucc-k}!ahg {decwrl}purdue!pur-ee!{pucc-h,pucc-i,pucc-k}!ahg "THEY PELTED US WITH ROCKS AND GARBAGE!!"
morse@leadsv.UUCP (Terry Morse) (12/06/85)
> >>>...For a co-ed dorm try one of the H-halls (try Harrison). These are > >>>clean, and contained very friendly people, at least when I lived there they > >>>did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of the > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >>>building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > I still live in Harrison, and guest hours is strictly enforced on > the womens half so are escorts. On the mens side the escort policy is not > as strictly enforced. (NOTE: This all depends on how ultra-conservative > your counselor is) > Can I believe what I read? Guest hours? Escorts required? I thought that sort of stuff went away decades ago!! What planet is this "Purdue" place on?
ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu (Ralph Hyre) (12/09/85)
In article <715@leadsv.UUCP> morse@leadsv.UUCP (Terry Morse) writes: ... >> >>>did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>>building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... > >Can I believe what I read? Guest hours? Escorts required? I thought that >sort of stuff went away decades ago!! What planet is this "Purdue" place on? Some places do this and stil call it a 'co-ed' dorm, it is less structured on the coasts, from what I've heard and experienced. (At MIT, 'co-ed' means there might be a girl living in the ROOM next to yours, and there is 24-hour visitation, with no escort required.) In some dorms there are male-only floors in order to keep a 60/40 male/female ratio on the coed floors, but there are no restriction unless you go to the Women's DORM, where there are only 8 (escorted) males allowed in at one time (more to prevent lots of guys stopping by at 5:00 to eat the best dorm food on campus than anything else, according to the rumor I heard.) - Ralph
ambar@mit-eddie.UUCP (AMBAR) (12/12/85)
In article <254@ius2.cs.cmu.edu> ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu (Ralph Hyre) writes: >In article <715@leadsv.UUCP> morse@leadsv.UUCP (Terry Morse) writes: >... >>> >>>did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of >>> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >>>building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. >>> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >... >> >>Can I believe what I read? Guest hours? Escorts required? I thought that >>sort of stuff went away decades ago!! What planet is this "Purdue" place on? > >Some places do this and stil call it a 'co-ed' dorm, it is less structured on >the coasts, from what I've heard and experienced. (At MIT, 'co-ed' means >there might be a girl living in the ROOM next to yours, and there is 24-hour >visitation, with no escort required.) Next room NUTHIN', I'm told that some guys in McGregor (all-male) have their girlfriends move in with them. >In some dorms there are male-only floors in order to keep a 60/40 male/female >ratio on the coed floors, but there are no restriction unless you go to the >Women's DORM, where there are only 8 (escorted) males allowed in at one time >(more to prevent lots of guys stopping by at 5:00 to eat the best dorm food >on campus than anything else, according to the rumor I heard.) Not quite accurate. *Each resident* is allowed to put 8 guys on the guest list. This means that they can get in alone, with ID. Any other male --staff, faculty, student, or guy-off-the-street--has to be escorted by a female (not even a resident!) Weird, eh? AMBAR "Anarchy may not be the best form of government, but it's better than no government at all."
jp@faron.UUCP (Jeffrey Picciotto) (12/13/85)
> Next room NUTHIN', I'm told that some guys in McGregor (all-male) have their > girlfriends move in with them. > > AMBAR Although this is done with greater frequency than you might expect, it is technically illegal (but THAT never stopped anybody!) A much greater problem is that McGregor is arranged in suites of 6 single rooms sharing a common kitchen/bathroom. If a girlfriend moves into one such 'single' room, she had better get along with everybody in the suite (imagine some guy in the bathroom, now imagine a random female walking in... "Oops...") --Jeff (of course neither of those stopped ME) Picciotto ...linus!d3unix!jp d3unix!jp@mitre-bedford.arpa
lo@hplabsb.UUCP (Jeff Lo) (12/20/85)
> In article <715@leadsv.UUCP> morse@leadsv.UUCP (Terry Morse) writes: > ... > >> >>>did. The co-ed part is nothing to worry about, its guys on one half of > >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> >>>building and gals on the other, with escorts required at ALL times. > >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ... > > > >Can I believe what I read? Guest hours? Escorts required? I thought that > >sort of stuff went away decades ago!! What planet is this "Purdue" place on? > > Some places do this and stil call it a 'co-ed' dorm, it is less structured on > the coasts, from what I've heard and experienced. (At MIT, 'co-ed' means > there might be a girl living in the ROOM next to yours, and there is 24-hour > visitation, with no escort required.) > > In some dorms there are male-only floors in order to keep a 60/40 male/female > ratio on the coed floors, but there are no restriction unless you go to the > Women's DORM, where there are only 8 (escorted) males allowed in at one time > (more to prevent lots of guys stopping by at 5:00 to eat the best dorm food > on campus than anything else, according to the rumor I heard.) > > - Ralph Well, it is less structured on the coasts, the west one at least. At UC Berkeley, all of the dorm except 2 are co-ed, co-ed meaning both sexes on the same floor sharing the same bathroom. While the this tended to upset some people (especially parents) at first, it actually works out pretty well. The one women's dorm at Cal is also reputed to have the best dorm food on campus, but better garbage is still garbage. Jeff Lo ..!hplabs!hplabsb!lo