cs195@sdcsvax.UUCP (EECS 195) (02/12/86)
Members of the Coalition for a Free South Africa again demonstrated their ability to deny a law abiding citizen of his First Amendment. A harmless evangelist known as Brother Jed was continually heckled, and later forcefully assaulted while speaking at UCSD on January 23. Denying an individual of his right to express himself in public is one of the worst displays of behavior that has become typical and expected from these mannerless throwbacks. -- "California Review" February 1986
nelson@dec-bufalo.UUCP (02/16/86)
Gee, Brother Jed sure gets around. I remember him being on campus a few times while I was at the University of Wisconsin -- LaCrosse. JENelson --------------------------------------------- Jeff E. Nelson, Digital Equipment Corporation Internet: nelson%bufalo.DEC@decwrl.DEC.COM UUCP: ...!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-bufalo!nelson
csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) (02/18/86)
In article <1406@sdcsvax.UUCP> cs195@sdcsvax.UUCP (EECS 195) writes: > A harmless evangelist... Harmless like Jimmy Swaggart or Jerry Fallwell? I don't see how anybody (in light of recent political trends) can use the word "evangelist" in the same sentence as a complaint of first amendment rights (such as *separation of church and state*) being taken away. -- From the land of Chaldea. -Charles
jutz@pogo.UUCP (Curt Jutzi) (02/20/86)
>Gee, Brother Jed sure gets around. I remember him being on campus a few >times while I was at the University of Wisconsin -- LaCrosse. > He was big time at PURDUE -- w.lafayette
cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) (02/20/86)
> In article <1406@sdcsvax.UUCP> cs195@sdcsvax.UUCP (EECS 195) writes: > > A harmless evangelist... > > Harmless like Jimmy Swaggart or Jerry Fallwell? I don't see how anybody > (in light of recent political trends) can use the word "evangelist" in > the same sentence as a complaint of first amendment rights (such as > *separation of church and state*) being taken away. > > -- > From the land of Chaldea. > -Charles What a person says doesn't hurt anyone. If someone attempts to impose their will on someone else, that's another matter. It sounds to me like you aren't too wild about that other First Amendment right -- free speech. Also, "separation of church and state" isn't part of the Constitution, and a good argument good be made that wasn't *quite* the intent of the Founding Fathers. The First Amendment says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". That means, no law recognizing, supporting, hostile to, or having any involvement with an establishment of religion. A lot of people yell "separation of church and state" as the basis for passing laws that attempt to control or restrict religious beliefs. A little more reading of the Constitution and the Constitutional Convention debates is in order, and a little less blather. --------------------- "Television evangelism is to evangelism, as television journalism is to journalism."
hammen@puff.UUCP (Zaphod Beeblebrox) (02/22/86)
In article <2377@pogo.UUCP>, jutz@pogo.UUCP (Curt Jutzi) writes: > >Gee, Brother Jed sure gets around. I remember him being on campus a few > >times while I was at the University of Wisconsin -- LaCrosse. > > > > He was big time at PURDUE -- w.lafayette > He was also real big time here at UW-Madison. He got attacked a couple of times here by people listening to him preach down at the State St. mall. He had said something like "women who don't follow their husband's orders should be whipped." There were a couple of big protests by some people calling themselves the "Wisconsin Jewish Defense League" (not related to the real JDL) where people brought eggs, water balloons, etc. and where people would jump up on the platform he was speaking from and shout replies to his statements. It can be really interesting to see what some people can actually believe, and also the strength of those beliefs. I don't think that he's convinced too many people that he's right about anything, however. Robert J. Hammen U. of Wisc. CS Dept. U. of Wisc. Plasma Physics Dept. Manta Software Corp. {ihnp4, allegra, seismo}!uwvax!puff!hammen !gumby!hammen Life...don't talk to me about life.....
afb@pucc-i (Michael Lewis) (02/28/86)
In article <2377@pogo.UUCP>, jutz@pogo.UUCP (Curt Jutzi) writes: > >Gee, Brother Jed sure gets around. I remember him being on campus a few > >times while I was at the University of Wisconsin -- LaCrosse. > > > > He was big time at PURDUE -- w.lafayette > The current evangelical type being obnoxious at Purdue (and IU) is Brother MAX; I didn't get here 'til 1982, so maybe I missed Brother Jed... This Brother Max character is pretty strange...he keeps spouting things like "women belong in the home..."; "fornicating college students..."; etc., etc. ad nauseam. Michael Lewis @ Purdue University
mdf@osu-eddie.UUCP (Mark D. Freeman) (03/01/86)
Summary: > The current evangelical type being obnoxious at Purdue (and IU) is > Brother MAX > > This Brother Max character is pretty strange...he keeps spouting things >like "women belong in the home..."; "fornicating college students..."; etc., >etc. ad nauseam. Max has been a regular at Ohio State for the past 6 years. When he shows up, a woman named Cindy usually appears also. She has the nickname 'disco queen', apparently due to her penchant for dancing the nights away before she saw the light and realised that God doesn't want anyone to have any fun. Her favorite line seems to be "cigarette-sucking sinner!". -- < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < <> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark D. Freeman mdf@osu-eddie.uucp StrongPoint Systems, Inc. mdf@osu-eddie.arpa Guest account at The Ohio State University !cbosgd!osu-eddie!mdf I speak, therefore I disclaim everything I say. < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < <> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
hammen@puff.UUCP (Zaphod Beeblebrox) (03/03/86)
In article <1424@osu-eddie.UUCP>, mdf@osu-eddie.UUCP (Mark D. Freeman) writes: > Summary: > > > The current evangelical type being obnoxious at Purdue (and IU) is > > Brother MAX > > > > This Brother Max character is pretty strange...he keeps spouting things > >like "women belong in the home..."; "fornicating college students..."; etc., > >etc. ad nauseam. > > Max has been a regular at Ohio State for the past 6 years. When he shows up, > a woman named Cindy usually appears also. She has the nickname 'disco queen', > apparently due to her penchant for dancing the nights away before she saw the > light and realised that God doesn't want anyone to have any fun. > > Her favorite line seems to be "cigarette-sucking sinner!". > This is odd. Sister Cindy used to hang around here with Brother Jed-- and claimed to be his wife! Seems that she was a "disco queen" at some college in Florida. One night, she met Brother Jed and he took her out to dinner. Her whole objective was to get him to (*gasp*) KISS her, but he wouldn't. So she married him, and claims that he didn't kiss her until their wedding night (although she never actually said WHERE). This is what she said once. Believe it if you wish..... Robert J. Hammen {seimso,ihnp4,allegra}!uwvax!puff!hammen U. of Wisc. CS Dept. !gumby1hammen U. of Wisc. Plasma Physics Dept. hammen@puff.wisc.edu Manta Software Corp. hammen@gumby.wisc.edu
shook@mcc-hi.UUCP (Rob Shook) (03/04/86)
I went to Wabash College, but Brother Max never made it that far south. I caught him on a few trips up there to use the library. Life finds me in Texas now, missing the snowy winters in the Hoosier state. Rob Shook
alle@ihlpl.UUCP (Marguerite Czajka) (03/04/86)
> This is odd. Sister Cindy used to hang around here with Brother Jed-- > and claimed to be his wife! Seems that she was a "disco queen" at some > college in Florida. One night, she met Brother Jed and he took her out to > dinner. Her whole objective was to get him to (*gasp*) KISS her, but he > wouldn't. So she married him, and claims that he didn't kiss her until > their wedding night (although she never actually said WHERE). This is what > she said once. Believe it if you wish..... > This is the story that Rolling Stone gives. It has a big article on Jed, Cindy and some of their helpers. Jed and Cindy have a child by the the way (can you imagine what it'll be like when it grows up?!)
twaites@srcsip.UUCP (Tex Twaites) (03/04/86)
Brother Jed and his cohorts the Destroyers(Brother Max, Sister Cindy, etc) have been coming the University of Minnesota campus for at least 4 or 5 years now. It is generally a high point of the spring lunch hour to sit out on the mall and listen to them and the hecklers. One time a student dressed up in a red cloak and put on some horns and jumped up next to Jed and proclaimed that he was the anti-christ, pointed a ruler at Jed and said 'ZAP! I've turned you into a goat!'. He then proceeded to 'ZAP' everyone and turn them into goats and ran away while Jed seemed about to have a coronary... Greg Twaites "...and fun was had by all..."
scott@gitpyr.UUCP (Scott Holt) (03/05/86)
wow...these guys get around! Around this section of the country we have
been treated to Brother Jim ( the Rev. Jim Gilles ). He was here at Ga Tech
a couple of weeks ago spouting off about how evil we all were and how he
was saved at a Van Halen concert ( he realized God when David Lee Roth shouted
"not even God can save your soul at a Van Halen concert" )
He would come out in front of our student center and begin preaching, soon
a crowd would gather to listen to/abuse him. He was so radicaly zealous that
even some of the campus born-again types were disgusted. He realy got the
crowd going with his insults like "Tech men can't change their clothes without
masturbating". Personaly, I'm a "damned frat boy who lusts after sluts and
hussies". He even came by my fraternity house and damed us all just before our
Winter Wipe Out party. My favorite line was the one he used on one of my
fraternity's little sisters: "You would rather be slurping beer than nursing
babies". That got her going. On his last day here some guys gave him an award
for being the biggest dick on campus...the presented him with a large,
stuffed, penis.
The whole thing lasted about a week and ended with an interview on our campus
radio station...conducted during the heavy metal show.
- Scott Holt
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BITNET: CCASTSH AT GITVM1tim@oucs.UUCP (Tim Thompson) (03/06/86)
> wow...these guys get around! Around this section of the country we have > been treated to Brother Jim ( the Rev. Jim Gilles ). He was here at Ga Tech > a couple of weeks ago spouting off about how evil we all were and how he > was saved at a Van Halen concert ( he realized God when David Lee Roth shouted > "not even God can save your soul at a Van Halen concert" ) Brother Jed used the exact same line about a Van Halen concert here at OU. Maybe all these campus holy rollers get together once a year and think up these brilliant lines. Or maybe Jed/Jim is the same person(?) -- +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Tim Thompson 414 Morton Hall Ohio University Athens, Ohio 45701 ihnp4!{amc1,cbdkc1,cbosgd,cuuxb}!oucs!tim Disclaimer: If the University finds out what I'm doing, they probably couldn't care less. +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
morse@leadsv.UUCP (Terry Morse) (03/08/86)
Brother jed just spent a few days at Stanford amusing the student body. He
made the daily newspaper by proclaiming that "God is a capitalist."
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Terry Morse (408)743-1487
{ hplabs!cae780 } | { ihnp4!sun!sunncal } !leadsv!morsethoma@reed.UUCP (Ann Muir Thomas) (03/09/86)
Brother Jed was recently spotted at the University of Oregon castigating a woman who was wearing seven earrings by calling her "no better than a savage." No, he hasn't shown up at Reed yet, but a few years ago one of his cohorts got into an argument with one of Reed's philosophy professors. Someone with a good sense of humor started keeping score, and the prof won, seven to nothing. Ann
grunwald@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU (03/10/86)
``burn in pools of FIIIIIIRRRREEEEE''' -- yes, the old rally cry. They've been to Univ. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign several times. I remember one time during Hash Wednesday here (used to be a NORML thing to do, but now it's simply a party) that Jed was chased around the Quad with a six foot plastic bong by some guy wearing combat paint & ripped pants. Very amusing. At other times, people have just walked up, stood next to him & started playing the violin, drums, whatever's handy. Or reading the NYT loud enough to drown him out. As to the suitability of these ``attacks'': According the UIUC regulations, there is a desginated Free Speech area (Thanks, UCB -- reminents of the '60s) where Free Speech is allowed. They never use it. They always find a big part of the Quad & preach so loud that it distribs the place for everyone else.
tim@oucs.UUCP (Tim Thompson) (03/12/86)
> Brother Jed was recently spotted at the University of Oregon castigating a > woman who was wearing seven earrings by calling her "no better than a > savage." > Ann Perhaps net.college.jed should be created so that we can keep track of this idiot, and be able to forewarn other universities with a "JED ALERT" when he is in the area. -- +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Tim Thompson 414 Morton Hall Ohio University Athens, Ohio 45701 ihnp4!{amc1,cbdkc1,cbosgd,cuuxb}!oucs!tim Disclaimer: If the University finds out what I'm doing, they probably couldn't care less. +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
bennett@reed.UUCP (David B. Kane) (03/15/86)
Greetings All:
Today Brother Jim Weber of the Campus Ministry U.S.A. was on the
campus of Reed College with an entourage consisting of:
Brother Eldon: an apprentice to this group of "radical Christians".
Sister Cindy: the wife of the infamous Jed Smock "Brother Jed". She
entertained the crowd with her personal testimony of salvation from
"disco fanatacism".
Sister Pat: the true preacher of the group; exhorted the crowd to give
up its life of sin; and:
Brother Jim Weber(sp): the ringleader, wore a large sandwich board with a
list of unacceptable social group, including: "queers, lesbians, Mormons,
drunkards, potheads, abortionists, pornographers and astrologers".
In my opinion, this group came to the wrong college to pick up converts.
For over two and a half hours, the crowd of better than 75 'Reedies' argued,
heckled and taunted these fearless, self-proclaimed upholders of our
morality.
Anyway, just thought you might be interested. Where is Brother Jed
himself?
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|__________________________________________________________________________|phoenix@genat.UUCP (phoenix) (03/19/86)
Sender:Constance Lilliss Otty Hi! I'm new to the net and in addition, I'm Canadian. I missed the first articles on "Brother Jed": who or what is he? All the comments about him seem to say that this is someone I should know about. Thanx in advance. -- The Phoenix (Neither Bright, Dark, nor Young) ---"A man should live forever...or die trying." ---"There is no substitute for good manners...except fast reflexes."
CJC@PSUVM.BITNET (03/22/86)
Penn State has been "blessed" far more than any of you - we have a
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"Brother" of our very own. Bro. (he abbreviates it) Cope has been delivering
tirades against campus whores and whoremongers with only a few breaks for
at least eight years. He has been heard to advocate stoning for
fornicators and the like. Occasionally he even has apprentices (disciples?)
who preach with or instead of him. Once I conversed with a current
apprentice (little bro (?)) and mentioned Peter the Hermit. He said "Who's
that, a rock group?" So then I lectured him on his ignorance in not knowing
the greatest man in his own field.
In an interview a few years ago Bro said he was in earlier years an
alcoholic - personally I think that explains a lot. Severe alcoholism has
been known to cause irreversable brain damage.
Are all these fanatics equally obsessed with sex? Has anyone asked
them why they're so obsessed?
--Carolyn J. Clark
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daemon@houligan.UUCP (03/29/86)
> > > >Max has been a regular at Ohio State for the past 6 years. When he shows up, > >a woman named Cindy usually appears also. She has the nickname 'disco queen', > >apparently due to her penchant for dancing the nights away before she saw the > >light and realised that God doesn't want anyone to have any fun. > > > Ah, you mean Cindy, the Roller-Skating disco queen! She made > annual appearances at the University of Wisconsin while I was there > (1978-1982), and I once saw her deliver a sermon *while roller-skating*. > At the time, the gossip was that she and Jed were an Item, if > not Married ("don't you dare blaspheme that woman!", Jed told us once). I'd > be sad to hear that she has thrown Jed over for Max. > By the way, does Jed still say he found the lord in a Burger King? > Ken Fishkin > Berkeley Computer Graphics Lab > ucbvax!fishkin I am a graduate of the University of Florida (1982). In my years at the university, Sister Cindy and Brother Jed were regulars at the Plaza of the Americas. To me their purpose in life was to allow me to remove my frustrations (ie. failing a test) by abusing these creatures verbally. Good old Sister Cindy and Brother (Piere Cardin) Jed. Without that valuble service, I might have taken these frustations out on friends and family!! For this I am grateful! Also at UF it was the belief that Sister Cindy and Brother Jed met and found Jesus together in the parking lot of a hamburger stand (Krystals -- home of the 29 cent hamburger) across the street from the University of Florida's main library. It was also the accepted belief that they were tripping on some form of LSD at the time. Rick Schneider Gould Electronics, Computer Systems Division Fort Lauderdale, Florida
brandx@ihlpl.UUCP (H. D. Weisberg) (03/31/86)
> > > > > >Max has been a regular at Ohio State for the past 6 years. When he shows up, > > >a woman named Cindy usually appears also. She has the nickname 'disco queen', > > >apparently due to her penchant for dancing the nights away before she saw the > > >light and realised that God doesn't want anyone to have any fun. > > > > > Ah, you mean Cindy, the Roller-Skating disco queen! She made > > annual appearances at the University of Wisconsin while I was there > > (1978-1982), and I once saw her deliver a sermon *while roller-skating*. > > At the time, the gossip was that she and Jed were an Item, if > > not Married ("don't you dare blaspheme that woman!", Jed told us once). I'd > > be sad to hear that she has thrown Jed over for Max. > > By the way, does Jed still say he found the lord in a Burger King? > > Ken Fishkin > > Berkeley Computer Graphics Lab > > ucbvax!fishkin > > > > I am a graduate of the University of Florida (1982). > In my years at the university, Sister Cindy and Brother Jed were > regulars at the Plaza of the Americas. To me their purpose > in life was to allow me to remove my frustrations (ie. failing a > test) by abusing these creatures verbally. > > Good old Sister Cindy and Brother (Piere Cardin) Jed. Without > that valuble service, I might have taken these frustations out > on friends and family!! For this I am grateful! > > Also at UF it was the belief that Sister Cindy and Brother Jed met > and found Jesus together in the parking lot of a hamburger stand > (Krystals -- home of the 29 cent hamburger) across the street > from the University of Florida's main library. It was also > the accepted belief that they were tripping on some form of LSD > at the time. > > > Rick Schneider > Gould Electronics, > Computer Systems Division > Fort Lauderdale, Florida I've seen Jed Smock (it's something like that or is it Shmuck) at Southern Illinois University - Carbondale. The story about hamburger joints is funny. At SIU, he said he saw Jesus on the beach in Morroco while on LSD (no wonder!). Come to think of it, that explains why he's got so many different stories. Jed provided a lot of entertainment to people. He seemed to enjoy getting pies in the face and on his $300 suits ("there's more where that one came from"). I really like the way he says Roooo-llllling Stones.