leung@acf4.UUCP (09/28/84)
Well, after the big amount of responses I've gotten on what I thought would've been a relatively quiet subject (diet), I figured I'd post up what I've heard to date (yes, leaving all of you anonymous) and see what the collective net.med.dieters.not.really.agree.with.you think. This will in a way combine both the excersize tips and diet tips I've gotten so I'll tackle the diet first. Plus some suggestions on books that somone suggested. First some basic principles: cottage cheese - keep away from it and milk products in general (I agree with keeping away from cheeses as such) snacks - do away with, or substitute fruits or vegetables instead (not too hard to do, I think) carbohydrates - so you thought rice was a good thing to eat to lose weight? Hah, for a 5' 9.5" person 120 grams of carbo is enough. Rice has 70-80 grams of carbo for every 100 grams of rice (8oz=175 g. of carbo!) meats - this can literally be done away with. The proteins in meat can be substituted easily by eating eggs (hardboiled) or fish (especially tuna) which are just as high in protein as red meat is. Plus meat 'slows' down the metabolism of the body and thus, lets you get fatter. Chicken on the other hand could also be used, but boil it and leave the skin to the dogs (or cats), you don't need the extra fat there anyway! Now for the diet (one I put together from all of your suggestions and shall try to stick to unless of course flames come in!) Breakfast - contrary to some opinion I don't think one should skip this meal I skipped breakfast for the first two years of college, and now that I am eating it again, I've never felt better during the whole day. Try it you might like it. >Still 1 bowl (not half a box!) of grain cereal with skim milk. >1 tablet of mult-vitamin,multi-mineral pill >1 tablet of kelp (interesting suggestion here...) Lunch - This is the hard one to figure out. I'm doing away with pretty much everything and replacing it with fruits or vegetables. The only gripe I have is that if I over do eating fruits (a few grapes, orange is enough) I get diareaha (?) which is very unpleasant to say the least. Maybe some suggestions are in order here !****** >Fruit Salad (expensive here in NYC) or vegetable salad (cheaper) >diet soda (probably new TAB) Dinner - Pretty much the same but a new twist. >Tuna (or chicken) fish salad, 1 tps. mayo, alphalpha or bean sprouts and lettuce >A few hard boiled eggs >Fruit or vegetable desert of some kind There you got it, sure doesn't look like much, but hopefully it'll work. (I've just started today 9/27/84) Exercise - There were ususal comments on this, get more! Since I am also now a proud member of the NYU varsity wrestling team, I may be more accessable to a gym than most, but it's worth a try. Just the basics here: >Lifting weights - Do them enough so you enjoy it, but do each set slowly so that it is more aerobic. Basic technique here is to let the weights down twice as slow as when you pick them up. >Running - never a favorite of mine, but since one of my friends is an avid runner I've hooked up with him and we run in our free time. I'm up to three miles now (believe me it takes time, I've jogged on and off for the past year) but I'd suggest running steadily and increasing the distance a little each time. I also find running with someone who doesn't run ahead of you but with you is the best way to do it. I'm doing it just about 5-6 days out of the week. One suggestion was to build up to 15-20 miles per week, which seems reasonable if you have the time. This also 'raises you average metabolism during the times you are not running' which would be a godsend. (someone who weighed <=167 pounds suggested that!) Books - a couple of suggestions from one thoughtful user...thanks Covert Billy, Fit or Fat. - very highly recommended. Remington, Fisher, Parent. How to Lower your Fat Thermostat. 1983, Vitality House International Inc. (1675 North 200 West, Bldg 11-c, Provo Utah 84604. 801-377-8113) More medical details then the one above, but with basically the same theme. ============================================================================== I'm going to stick with this (plus whatever my wrestling coach will put me through) for a while and if I get a positive result in a couple of weeks I'll repost this with a synopsis of how it went. I know that one of us users is on a 'radical'(?) diet which he doesn't think I'd go for, but I'll get in touch with him when he asked me to. Seems he wants to try it out first! So good luck with the rest of you who had written me. Didn't realize I was the only one in this boat... Signed, Boatpeople from Fatnam...? Alex Polozoff New York University leung@acf4 <inhp4, allegra>!cmcl2!acf4!leung P.S. The above ideas and comments were not all my own. Things in quotes were suggestions. I don't endorse the books (can't haven't read them yet!)
markmo@tekig.UUCP (Mark Morland) (10/02/84)
I believe the author's name is Covert Bailey.
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The last name of the Fit or Fat book author is Bailey, not Billy. It's a great book. Mary Sue Rowan hpfcla!marysue