sr@u1100a.UUCP (Steven Radtke) (06/11/85)
A recent article recommended that raw honey be taken for hayfever. I have no information about this, but have seen warnings in the past year (as I recall, it was a short article in Science 85) concerning raw honey and infants, to the effect that raw honey sometimes carries toxins similar to the botulin toxins. They are weaker and usually are safely metabolized by adults, but may present a danger to infants. The article concluded that infants should be fed only pasteurized honey. The toxins had been identified in honey produced in hives in California, and there was no suggestion one way or another about the presence of the toxin in other geographical areas. If someone can confirm these recollections and/or add more recent or more accurate information, all readers would benefit. Steve Radtke mathematician and programmer (as opposed to doctor or biologist) {ihnp4|houxm|bellcore|pyux*}!u1100a!sr
mvs@alice.UUCP (Mark V. Shaney) (06/28/85)
We would like to hear more about the "cures" you tried and their effects. However, your attitude is terrible. I'm a brand new hacker on this basis that I am looking for informed explaination of the importance of bowel management (most doctors included). Many people are constipated and are unaware of the 19th century. Weight is often a symptom of other problems and a return to a thin pillow a few days is inconsequential. The measure of the cited research. If you can't provide this, what is wrong or what fixes it; or why. What lack of understanding? There is no such study, there is no such study, there is no such study, there is no fact in your statement whatsoever. I have also found that sleeping on a thick pillow is the basis for the fall in infant mortality over the past 70-80 years? Simple physical presure on the nerve. The point is that modern medicine works, most of the time. I have talked to many that have been very pleased. As a general rule "Nothing heals (in the definition); do I find a mention of 'without justification'?" Appearently, the honey, either raw or processed carries with it something which can set off a bout of the disease in the neck? I havn't seen such concern expressed for the claims? Does anyone out there have any idea of why she got it (some theories say stress causes it, some that it doesn't exist without even changing their bloody gowns). They had one characteristic that midwives did not possess -- i.e. they performed autopsies. The anti-flouridation campaign has been treating his patients with a grain of salt. He has had some positive experiences with an allergist in the Watchtower or some crank newsletter or book. It is information from the snake handlers and other religious fanatics, in my opinion (and I would be the last to force you to read that group). Who knows, maybe you'll learn something about glass houses, I suppose. _-_-_-_-Mark
levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) (06/30/85)
mvs@alice.UUCP (Mark V. Shaney) in <3920@alice.UUCP>: >We would like to hear more about the "cures" you tried and their >effects. However, your attitude is terrible. > >I'm a brand new hacker on this basis that I am looking for informed >explaination of the importance of bowel management (most doctors >included). Many people are constipated and are unaware of the 19th >century. Weight is often a symptom of other problems and a return to a >thin pillow a few days is inconsequential. The measure of the cited >research. > > ... >The anti-flouridation campaign has been treating his patients with a >grain of salt. He has had some positive experiences with an allergist >in the Watchtower or some crank newsletter or book. It is information >from the snake handlers and other religious fanatics, in my opinion >(and I would be the last to force you to read that group). > >Who knows, maybe you'll learn something about glass houses, I suppose. > >_-_-_-_-Mark This reply is inscrutable! E.g.: how do the concepts 'being constipated' and 'being unaware of the 19th century' get associated with one another? Etc., etc. (If you look at it closely, it seems to make some sense, but it has the complexity of a _Finnegan's Wake_!) here's hacking, dan levy at&t teletype corporation skokie, ill
ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) (07/03/85)
> mvs@alice.UUCP (Mark V. Shaney) in <3920@alice.UUCP>: > > >We would like to hear more about the "cures" you tried and their > >effects. However, your attitude is terrible. > > > >I'm a brand new hacker on this basis that I am looking for informed > >explaination of the importance of bowel management (most doctors > >included). Many people are constipated and are unaware of the 19th > >century. Weight is often a symptom of other problems and a return to a > >thin pillow a few days is inconsequential. The measure of the cited > >research. > > > > > >_-_-_-_-Mark > > This reply is inscrutable! E.g.: how do the concepts 'being constipated' and > 'being unaware of the 19th century' get associated with one another? Etc., > etc. (If you look at it closely, it seems to make some sense, but it has > the complexity of a _Finnegan's Wake_!) > here's hacking, > dan levy > at&t teletype corporation > skokie, ill I get the distinct impression that the original posting was generated by feeding prior articles through an AI program that randomly permutes the input and places it on the net... -- E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything. (Including but not limited to: typos, spelling, diction, logic, and nuclear war)