wws@ukma.UUCP (Bill Stoll) (08/09/85)
I just want to set the record straight about AIDS! The members of the American Holistic Medical Association, the International Academy of Preventive Medicine, as well as many other practitioners of a Holistic approach to medical care have known, for ears, the basic mechanism of AIDS. In the beginning a few conventional researchers dared to suggest the truth but no one really liked the idea because it didn't provide for the "white knight of modern medicine" to ride to the rescue. It didn't provide the pharmaceutical industry with a new patent to exploit for 17 years (or however long a patent runs now). And, it didn't fit the conventional paradigm of causation of disease. Now, however, nearly all researchers are forced to admit the obvious: AIDS virus cannot infect an AVERAGE healthy human being, let alone a truly vigorously healthy person. The virus is an opportunist: it preys only on those persons whose immune systems are already on the verge of collapse. The problem is: the virus attacks what is left of the immune system and finishes it off. It is the other opportunistic pathogens (that have been known for years) that then finish off the victim. A West German study, done in 1976, showed that the average person, in western industrialized society, was exposed to >1000 times as many stresses/person/day as people were 100 years ago, and that the rate was increasing faster every year. 90% 0f those stresses were not psychological, or social, but, were physical, chemical, nutritional, electromagnetic smog, etc.; ENVIRONMENTAL stresses that didn't even exist 100 years ago. Biofeedback research shows us that all stresses cause a fight or flight response; whether physical or psychological. If the running or fighting isnt actually done the readiness to do so accumulates. Finally, the limit of "readiness" is reached and the person has insufficient reserves to resist the puny AIDS virus. The newly discovered "carriers" of AIDS simply are a little further up the "bell curve" of resistance in this society: enough resistance to avoid the disease but not enough to kill the virus completely. We have the distinction of living in the generation when larger, and larger #s of people are falling below the critical level on the bell curve of immunity in this country. Another perfect example of the superiority of prevention over treatment. There is good in all bad things: The vast amounts of $ being thrown into AIDS research has allowed us to be able to measure TINY changes in immune status. We now have the proof,Holistic Practitioners have been looking for, of how and why so many of the mind body approaches work. The new medical specialty: PSYCHONEUROIMMUNOLOGY, has been spawned by these advances. cbosgd!ukma!wws(Walt Stoll) :wq! :wq! nutritional, electromagnetic smog--ENVIRONMENTEL stresses; each of which cause a "fight or flight" response. If the person does not actually run or fight, the readiness to do so accumulates. Eventually,a larger, and larger % of people have used up their reserves to the point where even a puny virus like AIDS can survive. That's why "carriers of AIDS are now being found: there is a continuum of reser
cjh@petsd.UUCP (Chris Henrich) (08/09/85)
[] Bill Stoll's article on holistic medicine and AIDS raises some questions in the mind of a layman. I will excerpt his article. >The members of the American Holistic Medical Association, the >International Academy of Preventive Medicine, as well as many other >practitioners of a Holistic approach to medical care have known, for >[y]ears, the basic mechanism of AIDS. Was it published? References, please? BTW, what is the relation between the International Academy of Preventive Medicine and main-stream M.D.-type medicine? (A question for both Mr. (Dr?) Stoll and mainstream M.D.'s. >In the beginning a few >conventional researchers dared to suggest the truth but no one really >liked the idea because ... it didn't fit the conventional >paradigm of causation of disease. [The ellipsis covers a few sentences.] The idea, that AIDS requires a breakdown of the immune system after prolonged stress, reminds me of the work of Hans Selye. I had the impression he was respected by main-stream medicine. If this is the case, is it consistent with supposing that main-stream medicine pooh-poohed the Holists' view of AIDS? >A West German study, done in 1976, showed that the average person, in >western industrialized society, was exposed to >1000 times as many >stresses/person/day as people were 100 years ago, and that the rate >was increasing faster every year. 90% 0f those stresses were not >psychological, or social, but, were physical, chemical, nutritional, >electromagnetic smog, etc.; ENVIRONMENTAL stresses that didn't even >exist 100 years ago. References, please? AND critical treatment of these issues: (a) What is your universal quantitative measurement of the severity of a "stress", and how is this measurement justified? (b) How did the West Germans measure the stresses that people were subjected to 100 years ago, and how were these stresses quantitatively compared to those of today? Consider the environmental stresses that people faced 100 years ago, in comparison with those of today. Driving is stressful; but being limited to the speed of a horse and buggy ( ~ 4 miles per hour) must have been frustrating and therefore stressful as well. Which is better? Well, which have you chosen for yourself? Then there were the nutritional stresses... no fresh green veggies in winter, no refrigeration in summer, food preserved by smoking or salting it... (too much salt in the diet, not to mention carcinogens galore)... Somewhere I read once that in the early 1800's, English bakers frequently put alum in their bread to whiten it. (Cross reference discussion of aluminum and Alzheimer's Disease.) A consequence was kidney/bladder stones; Eton's infirmary had a ward for boys with bladder stones. This is getting far afield of AIDS; but it makes me feel uncertain that, where holistic medicine is valid, it is all that far from main-line M.D. medicine. Regards, Chris -- Full-Name: Christopher J. Henrich UUCP: ..!(cornell | ariel | ukc | houxz)!vax135!petsd!cjh US Mail: MS 313; Perkin-Elmer; 106 Apple St; Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 Phone: (201) 758-7288
wws@ukma.UUCP (Bill Stoll) (08/10/85)
I just want to set the record straight about AIDS! The members of the American Holistic Medical Association, the International Academy of Preventive Medicine, as well as many other practitioners of a Holistic approach to medical care have known, for years,the basic mechanism of AIDS. In the beginning a few conventional researchers dared to suggest the truth but no one really liked the idea because it didn't provide for the "white knight of modern medicine" to ride to the rescue. It didn't provide the pharmaceutical industry with a new patent to exploit for 17 years (or however long a patent runs now). And, it didn't fit the conventional paradigm of causation of disease. Now, however, nearly all researchers are forced to admit the obvious: AIDS virus cannot infect an AVERAGE healthy human being, let alone a truly vigorously healthy person. The virus is an opportunist: it preys only on those persons whose immune systems are already on the verge of collapse. The problem is: the virus attacks what is left of the immune system and finishes it off. It is the other opportunistic pathogens (that have been known for years) that then finish off the victim. A West German study, done in 1976, showed that the average person, in western industrialized society, was exposed to >1000 times as many stresses/person/day as people were 100 years ago, and that the rate was increasing faster every year. 90% of those stresses were not psychological, or social, but, were physical, chemical, nutritional, electromagnetic smog, etc.; ENVIRONMENTAL stresses that didn't even exist 100 years ago. Biofeedback research shows us that all stresses cause a fight or flight response; whether physical or psychological. If the running or fighting isnt actually done the readiness to do so accumulates. Finally, the limit of "readiness" is reached and the person has insufficient reserves to resist the puny AIDS virus. The newly discovered "carriers" of AIDS simply are a little further up the "bell curve" of resistance in this society: enough resistance to avoid the disease but not enough to kill the virus completely. We have the distinction of living in the generation when larger, and larger,#s of people are falling below the critical level on the bell curve of immunity in this country. Another perfect example of the superiority of prevention over treatment. There is good in all bad things: The vast amounts of $ being thrown into AIDS research has allowed us to be able to measure TINY changes in immune status. We now have the proof,Holistic Practitioners have been looking for, of how and why so many of the mind-body approaches work. The new medical specialty: PSYCHONEUROIMMUNOLOGY, has been spawned by these advances. cbosgd!ukma!wws(Walt Stoll)
geb@cadre.ARPA (Gordon E. Banks) (08/11/85)
Mayhaps all you practioners of "Holistic Medicine" would care to participate in a little experiment to prove your theories. I am sure some poor bastard with AIDS would be glad to supply you with a unit of blood of your type for a little transfusion. If you are right, you won't have anything to worry about, and you can show the world the truth. Of course, if you are wrong.... [I am of course joking, lest anyone try this deadly experiment.]
sdyer@bbncc5.UUCP (Steve Dyer) (08/12/85)
> I just want to set the record straight about AIDS! > ... This posting has all the requisite elements of quackery: the familiar "us" vs. "modernmedicalestablishment" stance, the sweeping statements which propose THE solution to difficult problems, and the perversion of incomplete scientific evidence into a grand theory fully of fanciful embellishments but truly lacking in any kind of scientific basis, let alone scientific proof. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT PEOPLE WITH "HEALTHY" IMMUNE SYSTEMS ARE SOMEHOW PROTECTED FROM CONTRACTING AIDS. One might as well make the same kind of tautological statement about disease in general, and it would still lack any predictive value for the individual. Yeah, AIDS is preventable: to be 100% safe, don't have sex outside of a monogamous relationship which has remained monogamous for the past 5 years. The next best thing is to avoid exchanging bodily fluids with strangers. Any "vigorously healthy" or even "average" person would have to be out of his mind to think that his presumably healthy immune system is immune to getting AIDS: there are too many "vigorously healthy" people who are now seriously ill or dead. In many cases, it only took a single infected sex partner. -- /Steve Dyer {decvax,linus,ima,ihnp4}!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbnccv.ARPA