werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) (08/12/85)
About a month ago, I asked for topics for future postings to net.med,
with the promise that while I couldn't guarantee research into any of them,
I would certain keep my eye out for them during the course of my normal
reading.
Since I'm only one person though, and there are quite a few people
on the net who may have expertise in some of these areas, I'm posting an
edited list of what I received below (by edited, I mean headers, gratuitous
remarks, and complimentary prose have been eliminated, no requests have been
omitted):
I also thought people might be interested in other people's interests.
Craig Werner
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The most interesting of these have dealt with the interaction of
medicine and society (midwives, Herbalife, etc.)
According to her, "it takes 28 years to earn
back what you lose economically studying to become a doctor in
Sweden." I told her about the bumper sticker "starve with
dignity, become a nurse" and she wants one desperatly.
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The topic most near and dear to *my* heart, er, kidneys, is STONES (calcium
oxalate type).
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Well, the AIDS thing appears ready to become a first-rate epidemic.
A breakthrough cure for pancreatic cancer would be rather nice.
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Please write articles on how AIDS is transmitted to people
who are not homosexuals, not drug users, etc. A recent LIFE magazine
headline - "Now anyone can get AIDS" has me worried.
I'm interested in topics like if mosquitoes can pass the disease,
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Some topic suggestions:
I have a mild comes-and-goes psorisis. I use a cortisone cream, but
find that it is much better in the summer (lying in the sun) than
the winter. Causes? Cures? Infectious? Long-term dangers?
On a completely different topic,
My brother is an oncologist. He mentioned that he heard from another
doctor at a party that autopsies of Alzheimer's disease patients showed
increased levels of aluminum in their brain tissue. "And what do
doctors recommend for their oldsters? Maalox, of course."
Feel free to take it from there.
(My brother was one of the generation that received X-ray treatment
for their tonsils. He went through med school on an Air-Force
scholarship where he promised to serve after school. At his pre-induction
physical, he was asked "Doctor, why do you have a 15% hearing loss on
one side?" Turned out to be a brain tumor, which was operated on
successfully. He had a thyroidectomy subsequently. (This was over 15
years ago.) This gave him a unique perspective on oncology, of course.
I haven't heard too much about the effects of these treatments, though
I know three people who had them, all of whom have some ill effects.
Most of the net readers grew up after the X-ray treatment era, but
a summary/followup might be interesting.
When do you have time to study?
Ps: all of the above may be quoted/reproduced.
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--The science of looking at a person's eyes (at the blood vessels and
spots in the white of the eye) to diagnose the person. (Is it called
iridology?)
--Somebody told me that there is a current study in which they asked
women who are having their IUD's removed if they could sample the
cells? in their fallopian tubes, and found that 85% of them had
scarring of the fallopian tubes, making pregnancy risky for them.
Have you heard anything like this?
--Osteoporosis
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Hi. Since you are looking for topics, I am interested in
Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS). I was wondering if any
new treatment ideas have come along in the past couple
of years? Or any information at all. Thanks.
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I'm not sure about topics, but there were two spot radio announcements
by Carlton Fredricks, PhD, that I remember. Fredricks is a nutritionist
(whatever that means). He has several books published about nutritional
deficiencies and/or approaches for treatment/relief of certain conditions.
He was sponsored by Lindberg Nutrition which is a chain of Health Food
stores in LA.
1. Fredricks claimed that the symptoms of arthritis could be eliminated
or substantially reduced by complete elimination of the foods of the
nightshade family from the diet. There were 5 items mentioned. Three of
them were potatoes, tomatoes, and rutabaga. I don't remember the other two.
Potatoes and tomatoes might take a little doing to eliminate (spaghetti,
lasagna, pizza, etc.) but it seemed to me that someone in the grip of
arthritis would regard that as a small price to pay for substantial relief.
The other two items were even less common than rutabaga.
2. Fredricks related the story that if a farmer had a cow that couldn't
conceive and called the vet, the first thing the vet would ask is "What's
the animal been eating?" But if a woman goes to her doctor to complain about
infertility, the *last* thing the doctor asks is "what have you been eating?"
(This story obviously doesn't prove anything, but somehow seems to strike
a responsive chord in me).
--
Craig Werner
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"The world is just a straight man for you sometimes"tjs@cbdkc1.UUCP ( Tom Stanions) (08/14/85)
>--The science of looking at a person's eyes (at the blood vessels and > spots in the white of the eye) to diagnose the person. (Is it called > iridology?) No. Iridology is the study of the iris of the eye. The study of the white area of the eye is called sclarology (sp). The detail of information available in the whites is very coarse whereas the iris shows great detail. The current expert on iridology is Dr. Bernard Jensen. Dr. Jensen has produced some books that range from simple-to-read pamphletes to major works. I have a pamphlete on sclarology at home. If you are interested I can try and search it out and give you the name and publisher and/or some basic information. If you would like to discuss iridology I would be happy to do so or point you to a good source. {allegra|ihnp4}!cbdkc1!tjs
larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) (08/15/85)
> (My brother was one of the generation that received X-ray treatment > for their tonsils. He went through med school on an Air-Force > scholarship where he promised to serve after school. At his pre-induction > physical, he was asked "Doctor, why do you have a 15% hearing loss on > one side?" Turned out to be a brain tumor, which was operated on > successfully. He had a thyroidectomy subsequently. (This was over 15 > years ago.) This gave him a unique perspective on oncology, of course. > > I haven't heard too much about the effects of these treatments, though > I know three people who had them, all of whom have some ill effects. > Most of the net readers grew up after the X-ray treatment era, but > a summary/followup might be interesting. Anyone remember the unregulated x-ray machines that shoe stores used as a fad in the 40's and 50's? I used to look forward to getting shoes as a kid so I could watch my bones wiggle... I shudder to think how many REM's those suckers gave to unsuspecting people. > Hi. Since you are looking for topics, I am interested in > Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS). I was wondering if any > new treatment ideas have come along in the past couple > of years? Or any information at all. Thanks. I have found an effective treatment for the ocasional person who is a real pain in my lower bowel: I use a chiropratic procedure known as Attitude Adjustment. :-) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York | | UUCP {decvax,dual,rocksanne,rocksvax,watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry | | VOICE 716/741-9185 {rice,shell}!baylor!/ | | FAX 716/741-9635 {AT&T 3510D} syr!buf!/ | | TELEX 69-71461 ansbak: ELGECOMCLR {via WUI} | | | | "Have you hugged your cat today?" | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
geb@cadre.ARPA (Gordon E. Banks) (08/17/85)
In article <319@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: > > Anyone remember the unregulated x-ray machines that shoe stores used >as a fad in the 40's and 50's? I used to look forward to getting shoes as a >kid so I could watch my bones wiggle... I shudder to think how many REM's >those suckers gave to unsuspecting people. > Chiropractors also represent a source of unnecessary x-rays. Many chiropractors do full spine xrays (some even full body xrays) purporting to show the patient the areas of "subluxation". Of course the patient is too ignorant of radiology to question what the chiropractor points out as areas of abnormality. X ray machines really don't belong in chiropractor's offices. Very few M.D.s have x-ray machines in the office due to the necessity to have good calibration to avoid excess exposure. (Dental x-rays are an exception, but they aren't nearly as dangerous if miscalibration does occur.) I would advise people not to let a chiropractor x-ray them.
bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron Howes) (08/18/85)
In article <319@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: > Anyone remember the unregulated x-ray machines that shoe stores used >as a fad in the 40's and 50's? I used to look forward to getting shoes as a >kid so I could watch my bones wiggle... I shudder to think how many REM's >those suckers gave to unsuspecting people. I remember them well. I also enjoyed looking at the bones in my feet. While I haven't developed food cancer I've often wondered if there was any relationship between them and my lifelong battle with athlete's foot fungi. Does somebody know if, in fact, there is some kind of correlation between exposure to those devices and cancer of the bones in the foot? -- Byron C. Howes ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch
wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly) (08/19/85)
In article <724@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron Howes) writes: >> Anyone remember the unregulated x-ray machines that shoe stores used >>as a fad in the 40's and 50's? ... > >I remember them well. I also enjoyed looking at the bones in my feet. What I liked even better were the little radiation viewing devices you sometimes found in cereal or crackerjack boxes. They were little plastic tubes with a lens at one end and some of the radium material that goes on watch dials at the other. You could look into it in a dark room and watch the little flashes ... This was back around the early '50s, I guess, when anything nuclear was popular. It seemed like everyone was heading west to hunt for uranium; movies like "The Atomic Kid" with Mickey Rooney were popular; and I had a brand-new fake plastic Geiger counter I'd play with (it came with fake uranium rocks and you'd hold the counter up to the rocks and the counter would click like crazy). I can't remember ANYONE suggesting that radiation might be bad for you in those days. The movie "Atomic Cafe" captures the spirit of the times well. -- Cheers, Bill Ingogly
k9un@ihu1e.UUCP (j w ague) (08/21/85)
In article <319@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: > > Anyone remember the unregulated x-ray machines that shoe stores used >as a fad in the 40's and 50's? I used to look forward to getting shoes as a >kid so I could watch my bones wiggle... I shudder to think how many REM's >those suckers gave to unsuspecting people. > Boy do I remember! I have thought about it for years! I'm 38 now and remember going to the store in the 50's and looking at my feet through it until my parents would wisely drag me away. I always figure that it's just a matter of time before I have some wierd growth on one of my toes! It does worry me somewhat - I wonder if there are any statistics out there on cancer of the foot associated with those things. Wes Ague ihu1e!k9un
dts@gitpyr.UUCP (Danny Sharpe) (08/22/85)
In article <491@cadre.ARPA> geb@cadre.ARPA (Gordon E. Banks) writes: > >Chiropractors also represent a source of unnecessary x-rays. Many >chiropractors do full spine xrays (some even full body xrays) >purporting to show the patient the areas of "subluxation". Of >course the patient is too ignorant of radiology to question what >the chiropractor points out as areas of abnormality. X ray >machines really don't belong in chiropractor's offices. Very >few M.D.s have x-ray machines in the office due to the necessity >to have good calibration to avoid excess exposure. (Dental x-rays >are an exception, but they aren't nearly as dangerous if miscalibration >does occur.) I would advise people not to let a chiropractor x-ray them. I was x-rayed by a chiropractor once. He wanted a picture of the joint where my spine meets my skull so he asked me to open my mouth wide and he took the picture through my open jaws. No headrest or anything to hold my head in position. He didn't get the joint. Interestingly enough, he didn't wear any protective clothing or get behind a screen or anything. -Danny -- -- CAUTION: WET FLOOR <== Is this a warning or a command? -- Danny Sharpe School of ICS Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!dts
tjs@cbdkc1.UUCP ( Tom Stanions) (08/22/85)
In article <491@cadre.ARPA> geb@cadre.ARPA (Gordon E. Banks) writes: >Chiropractors also represent a source of unnecessary x-rays. Many >chiropractors do full spine xrays (some even full body xrays) >purporting to show the patient the areas of "subluxation". Of >course the patient is too ignorant of radiology to question what >the chiropractor points out as areas of abnormality. X ray >machines really don't belong in chiropractor's offices. Very >few M.D.s have x-ray machines in the office due to the necessity >to have good calibration to avoid excess exposure. (Dental x-rays >are an exception, but they aren't nearly as dangerous if miscalibration >does occur.) I would advise people not to let a chiropractor x-ray them. Let's not let our prejudism show, I would advise people not to let anyone x-ray them without good reason. Many of the clinics that doctors practice in do have x-ray machines and the best way to pay them off is to x-ray people. My siister-in-law is currently attending a chiropractic college and has already (in her first year) been informed of the dangers and importance of x-rays in her future field. Chiropractors are trained specialists, and just like doctors and dentists, some are good and some are bad. The only answer is intellegent patients who have taken time to learn enough to tell the difference. Uninformed people are one of the major risks in chiropractics, when asked about their medical past many will take the "If he's so good let him find out about my past and tell me!" attitude, this has led to many injuries because the chiropractor didn't know about a past problem and did a manouver they would not have done otherwise. If you want advice about any form of natural treatment don't ask a conventional doctor. {allegra|ihnp4}!cbdkc1!tjs
fc@spuxll.UUCP (fc) (08/27/85)
I often wonder if people who used those foot x-ray machines in the 1950's had any problem with children with birth defects in later years?
geb@cadre.ARPA (Gordon E. Banks) (08/29/85)
In article <721@spuxll.UUCP> fc@spuxll.UUCP (fc) writes: >I often wonder if people who used those foot x-ray machines in the >1950's had any problem with children with birth defects in later years? Undoubtedly. However, I doubt if any statistical studies have been done to correlate exposure to birth defects, which are now and have always been extremely common, both in humans and animals, exposed or not.