[net.med] holistic evidence different from ordinary evidence?

sdyer@bbncc5.UUCP (Steve Dyer) (08/31/85)

> Here's an interesting point, what the holistic health field knows has to be 
> proved by the same methods as conventional medicine????  If a pro-conventional
> person wants to state a point he simple picks up an "approved" source, quotes
> it, and voila --- "TRUTH".  Yet when a holistic practitioner speaks from
> experience or knowledge or simple fact he must present bonified documents.
> These documents are then trashed out if they disagree with conventional
> medicine as being "unapproved" or if they are then we are told "See
> conventional medicine isn't all that bad".

I think this latest posting by Stanions reveals the depths of his
misunderstanding of the scientific approach to anything, not the least
human health and well-being.  There is no argument from authority in
science: the reason that these sources are "approved sources" is NOT
because they are high-tech, or payed off by the AMA, or non-holistic: it is
simply because the source has been published in a refereed journal, and
thus supposedly reviewed for correct methodology to minimize experimenter
bias.  Epidemiological studies and reviews of therapy use the tools of
statistics to examine the nature of disease or the efficacy of a therapy in
a population.  Their results reveal "TRUTH" much better than would simply
saying "ELECTROMAGNETIC SMOG IS A DANGER TO ONE'S HEALTH" or "high colonics
cure acne."  The most basic physiological facts are held as "TRUTH" simply
because they have been studied in the laboratory and the predicted results
observed over and over and over again.  The same cannot be said for any
of the theories or therapies which you and Stoll support.

Mr. Stanions, comments like your and Stoll's are held suspect precisely
because so many of them fly directly in the face of well-known observation:
"catarrh" is a meaningless, creaky abstraction in direct contradiction to
the experimentally observed and clinically confirmed mechanisms of the
body's response to infection, bowel fixations and "autointoxication" depend
on the existence of "toxins" which have never been observed in mammals, let
alone the laboratory, "iridology" founded on a theory of disease which is
in direct contradiction to the science of physiology and whose predictions
are almost unbelievably overreaching, and so on and so on...  Even with
these suspicions, positive clinical results would speak for themselves, but
there are no studies I know of which look at the efficacy of such
controversial therapies which produce positive evidence.  This paucity of
results makes us all the more skeptical, a perfectly reasonable reaction, I
might add.  All we have is more individual testimony from people such as
yourselves, and I addressed the problems with using this as evidence in an
earlier message: the strict formality of a scientific study is needed to
minimize the overwhelming tendency of people to "find" whatever evidence
they are looking for, or in the case of a patient, to be "cured" after
receiving treatment.

All we are asking for is objective substantiation for the claims you make.
It seems to me that the "scientific method" as a way of testing the
efficacy of a treatment is no less valid for a "holistic" therapy:
therapies aren't "holistic", practitioners are.  It is beyond me why
one would be reluctant to put your practices up to proper examination.

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/Steve Dyer
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