usenet@ucbvax.ARPA (USENET News Administration) (10/08/85)
From the San Francisco Chronicle, October 7, 1985 ************************************************* Section 2052, California Business and Professional code defines the practice of medicine as: "Any person who practices or attempts to practice or who advertises or holds himself or herself out as practicing any system or mode of treating the sick or afflicted in this state or who diagnoses, treats, operates, for or prescribes for any ailment, blemish, deformity, disease, disfigurement, disorder injury or other physical or mental condition of any person." The unlicensed practice of medicine is a misdemeanor. ***************************************************** :-(
werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) (10/15/85)
> > The unlicensed practice of medicine is a misdemeanor. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^ While my classmates and I found the definition amusing, there was a uniform reaction to this last line. We're spending 4-7 years working 90 hour weeks (and that's a light week), going a quarter of a million dollars in debt to get our MD degree and medical licenses ... THE LEAST THEY COULD DO IS MAKE IT A FELONY. And remember, "Comedy, like Medicine, was never meant to be practiced by the general public." -- Craig Werner !philabs!aecom!werner "The world is just a straight man for you sometimes"
ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) (10/17/85)
> > > The unlicensed practice of medicine is a misdemeanor. > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^ ... > THE LEAST THEY COULD DO IS MAKE IT A FELONY. > > Craig Werner Hmmm, so if I told my Aunt Mabel that I thought a cup of herb tea might make her feel less tired sore then I would be in a class with someone who murdered and raped for a living? 1/2 :-) Line eater must have eaten your smiley face ... Why not certification rather than licensing? Let the malpractice claims sort out the poor practitioners. (Certification would work like it does for CPA's. I can have anyone do my bookkeeping, but if I want assurance that they know what they are doing, I get a CPA.) -- E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems 'If you can dream it, you can do it' Walt Disney This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything. (Including but not limited to: typos, spelling, diction, logic, and nuclear war)
mdm@ecn-pc.UUCP ( Mike D McEvoy) (10/17/85)
Distribution:net.med, net.legal Organization: Purdue Engineering Computer Network, West Lafayette, IN Keywords: >> > The unlicensed practice of medicine is a misdemeanor. >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > While my classmates and I found the definition amusing, there was a > uniform reaction to this last line. > We're spending 4-7 years working 90 hour weeks (and that's a light > week), going a quarter of a million dollars in debt to get our MD > degree and medical licenses ... > > THE LEAST THEY COULD DO IS MAKE IT A FELONY. Of course, in order to maintain the status quo, those found guilty of malpractice will be sentenced to death by lethal injection (AIDS virus???) or worse Four more years of residency at - Insert your favorite med school - Big Mac
mpr@mb2c.UUCP (Mark Reina) (10/18/85)
> > > > The unlicensed practice of medicine is a misdemeanor. > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > ... > > THE LEAST THEY COULD DO IS MAKE IT A FELONY. > > > > Craig Werner > > Hmmm, so if I told my Aunt Mabel that I thought a cup of herb tea > might make her feel less tired sore then I would be in a class with > someone who murdered and raped for a living? 1/2 :-) In some instances, across the country, the unlicensed practice can be a felony. There have even been felonious instances by a licensed doctor. > Why not certification rather than licensing? Let the malpractice > claims sort out the poor practitioners. (Certification would work > like it does for CPA's. I can have anyone do my bookkeeping, but > if I want assurance that they know what they are doing, I get a CPA.) > > E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems Mr. Smith, doctors do go through a certification of sorts. My brother is a doctor. He had to go through three sets of medical board exams.
dave@cylixd.UUCP (Dave Kirby) (10/21/85)
In article <403@ecn-pc.UUCP> mdm@ecn-pc.UUCP ( M D McEvoy) writes: >Of course, in order to maintain the status quo, those found guilty of >malpractice will be sentenced to... >Four more years of residency at - Insert your favorite med school - But there are Constitutional provisions against cruel and unusual punishment.
ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) (10/21/85)
> > > > > The unlicensed practice of medicine is a misdemeanor. > > ... > > > THE LEAST THEY COULD DO IS MAKE IT A FELONY. > > > > Hmmm, so if I told my Aunt Mabel that I thought a cup of herb tea > > might make her feel less tired & sore then I would be in a class with > > someone who murdered and raped for a living? 1/2 :-) > > In some instances, across the country, the unlicensed practice can be a > felony. There have even been felonious instances by a licensed doctor. > > > Why not certification rather than licensing? Let the malpractice > > claims sort out the poor practitioners. (Certification would work > > like it does for CPA's. I can have anyone do my bookkeeping, but > > if I want assurance that they know what they are doing, I get a CPA.) > > > Mr. Smith, doctors do go through a certification of sorts. My brother > is a doctor. He had to go through three sets of medical board exams. The distinction between LICENSING and CERTIFICATION is a legal one having little to do with the degree of preparation or skill. A license gives you the right to do something that would be a crime for the un-licenced to do. A certification gives you the right to do something and claim exceptional expertise at doing it when others are allowed to do it, but are not allowed to claim exceptional expertise at doing it. There may also be some limitations on the ability of the un-certificated to practice in some situations. In the area of medicine, to offer treatment without a licence is a crime. Under certification, it would not be a crime; though taking the offer might be stupid ... :-) While it is usually the case that both licensing and certification require some formal training and/or examination; the distinction between them rests on the penalty for practice when not blessed by having the paper. Physicians are licenced, not certified. -- E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems 'If you can dream it, you can do it' Walt Disney This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything. (Including but not limited to: typos, spelling, diction, logic, and nuclear war)
davew@shark.UUCP (Dave Williams) (10/24/85)
> > The unlicensed practice of medicine is a misdemeanor. > THE LEAST THEY COULD DO IS MAKE IT A FELONY. Perhaps this is a little off the subject, but have you ever heard of anyone being convicted of practicing management without a license? I know several who should have been. -- Dave Williams Tektronix, Inc. Graphic Workstations Division *********************** * This space for rent * * * * (cheap) * ***********************