werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) (11/01/85)
For the public record, I'd like to ask three questions of Walt Stoll.
Please, no prompting from the audience until he's answered:
1. Do you or did you do Hair Analysis?
2. Do you do Cytotoxicity testing?
3. What would you do in the following situation?
A patient comes to your office with a sore throat of three days
duration. She has difficulty swallowing. Her cervical lymph nodes are
markedly swollen, even to her. Upon looking down her throat, you see pus
on the tonsils. Well, ....
As I said, quiet from the audience, what little of his credibility is
on the line here.
However, for audience participation, if you think I am a) persecuting
him, b) not going far enough, and/or c) wasting my time, please write me. Or
even write him.
I'll save any further comments until we all see his answer.
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Craig Werner
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"... Has Determined That Cigarette Smoking Is Dangerous To Your Health"wws@ukma.UUCP (Bill Stoll) (11/11/85)
In article <2000@aecom.UUCP>, werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) writes: > > For the public record, I'd like to ask three questions of Walt Stoll. > Please, no prompting from the audience until he's answered: > > 1. Do you or did you do Hair Analysis? I have not ordered a Hair Analysis since Mineral Lab (in California) sold their practice to Doctor's Data (in Chicago) a year or two ago. I had used Mineral Lab because the World Health Organization (and an unpublished 60 Minutes investigation) listed them as the only reliable hair analysis laboratory in the US at the time (about 1977). I have been investigating laboratories for the past year or so & am still not satisfied with quality sufficiently to begin using the information again. The World Health Organization has stated that hair analysis is the most effective screening tool available for heavy metal toxicity. Since it is now known that 1,500,000 US citizens have hypertension because of low level lead intoxication; while 500,000 die of stroke & 500,000 more die of coronaries yearly from that same level of lead (not reliably detected by blood or urine)--that one set of facts alone would justify hair analysis. These statistics were reported this year at the annual Washington DC meeting of the Center of Disease Control. There are many documented cases of growth failure in children, due to Zinc deficiency, whose blood and urine zincs were normal while their hair zincs were reproducibly low. Mercury intoxication from amalgams frequently will not show up in blood or urine until the amalgams have been removed when, for some as yet unknown reason, the person frequently starts appearing. In many of those same cases the hair is the only indication of the mercury burden prior to amalgam removal. The most important time to know, obviously, is before the procedure is decided upon. I could give example after example. The point is: hair analysis is, in 1985, about where blood chemistry was in the 1940's. If we had "thrown out the baby with the bathwater" back then, where would blood chemistries be today? Hair Analysis, correctly done, is a valuable adjunctive bit of information which, when combined with the rest of the conventional tests (lab, x-ray, history, physical, etc.), gives information which cannot yet be obtained in other reasonably priced ways. It eventually will take its place with the rest of what conventional medicine now calls its own. The problem is the health food store, or magazine, that sells the lay person a kit and tries to tell him or her EVERYTHING about his or her health from that one test (and from a crummy lab at that). How well do you think people would do if they could get their blood chemistries that way? This obvious stupidity is no reason to deny those physicians, who have taken the time to learn how to use this imperfect tool, the right to help their patients in ways that are, as yet, unavailable without it. > 2. Do you do Cytotoxicity testing? No. Frequently we have to talk a patient out of it. Occasionally, even after we have explained its limitations (below) the patient will still insist on the test and we will draw the blood to send it to one of the few labs in the country who know how to do it. The patient should have the right to make the choice so long as it is not directly harmful. Cytotoxic testing can give information not available through other more acceptible procedures. However, if the results are negative they are only 25% accurate. If they are positive, they are 75% accurate. In my opinion, that is insufficient accuracy (for the price) to recommend them. > > 3. What would you do in the following situation? > A patient comes to your office with a sore throat of three days > duration. She has difficulty swallowing. Her cervical lymph nodes are > markedly swollen, even to her. Upon looking down her throat, you see pus > on the tonsils. Well, .... More than 75% of people with these findings have viral (not bacterial) infections. The only infection of even theoretical danger to the patient, streptococcus Type A--Rheumatic Fever, etc., should (by most current theories--though there is considerable recent data to the contrary) be treated by Penicillin (or comparable antibiotic for those allergic to Penicillin) for 10 full days. The diagnosis (90%+ accurate) should be made on the spot with one of the new instant laboratory tests for that purpose. Or, for those not so up to date, a throat culture (85% accurate and takes 24 hours) is still acceptable. At the Holistic Medical Centre we would also recommend 1/4tsp salt in exactly 8oz water to gargle, as warm as tolerable, as often as helpful. The reason for this exact ratio is that it is the same as the salinity of the blood. Too much salt causes irritation while too lit >kily is sufficient to stimulate interferon production to help fight tha viral infection. If there is sufficient pain for the person to be willing to bother with it; we might recommend an ice bag to the outside of the neck. If the symptoms persist longer than a few days with appropriate therapy the individual should have a screening test for Mononucleosis. If this happened in the winter time we would also be sure that humidification information was available since adequate humidity inside the house, during the heating season, prevents all upper respiratory infections not present in the summertime. Did I pass, Craig? -- cbosgd!ukma!wws(Walt Stoll) YOU Walt Stoll, MD, ABFP Founder & Medical Director ARE MORE Holistic Medical Centre 1412 North Broadway Lexington, Kentucky 40505 THAN YOU THINK (606) 233-4273