[net.med] Astrology

speaker@ttidcb.UUCP (Kenneth Speaker) (01/09/86)

Someone on this net (Craig?) mentioned a controlled experiment where 
astrologers (astrologists?) attempted to predict personality traits of
a set of individuals.  The results discredited the predictive abilities
of astrology.  I would be very interested in reading this paper.  Could
whoever mentioned this experiment mail or post a reference?

Thanks.

--Kne

wallace@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (David E. Wallace) (01/16/86)

In article <614@ttidcb.UUCP> speaker@ttidcb.UUCP (Kenneth Speaker) writes:
>Someone on this net (Craig?) mentioned a controlled experiment where 
>astrologers (astrologists?) attempted to predict personality traits of
>a set of individuals.  The results discredited the predictive abilities
>of astrology.  I would be very interested in reading this paper.  Could
>whoever mentioned this experiment mail or post a reference?

I'm not the original poster, but I do know the article you're referring to.
It's "A double-blind test of astrology," by Shawn Carlson, Nature, Vol. 318,
December 5, 1985, pp. 419-425.

The importance of this experiment is that it was designed with the assistance
of respected members of both the scientific and the astrological communities
as a valid, scientific test of astrology as it is practiced today by
professional astrologers.  It was designed to test what the author calls
the "fundamental thesis of natal astrology," that "the positions of the
`planets' (all planets, the Sun and Moon, plus other objects defined by
astrologers) at the moment of birth can be used to determine the subject's
general personality traits and tendencies in temperment and behavior, and
to indicate the major issues which the subject is likely to encounter."

The experiment described actually consisted of two parts, of which the
second part yielded the results Ken mentions.  In this part of the experiment,
astrologers attempted to match an individual's horoscope with one of three
personality profiles from the California Personality Inventory, a
widely-respected personality test which was chosen by the advising astrologers
as best measuring the types of personality traits discernable with astrology.
One of the profiles was of the individual whose horoscope was to be matched;
the other two were those of two other individuals, chosen at random.
The astrologers predicted that they would be able to identify the
correct profile at least half the time; this was the "astrological hypothesis,"
to be tested against the "scientific hypothesis," which assumed they
would only be able to guess the correct profile with a probability of 1/3.
The experimenters decided in advance that they would only reject a hypothesis
if the results differed by more than 2.5 standard deviations from the
prediction under that hypothesis.  (The astrologers were asked to rank
their choices 1, 2, and 3, and to weight each choice from 0 to 10 based on
how good a match they thought the profile was to the given horoscope; this
allowed more detailed analysis of the results, described in the article,
but the primary test was based on their first choices, as described above.)

Out of 116 first place choices, the astrologers chose the correct profile
40 times: 0.256 standard deviations away from the chance prediction of
38.5, and 3.34 standard deviations away from the astrologers' prediction
of 58.5.  These results were consistent with the scientific hypothesis;
inconsistent with the astrological hypothesis.  Analysis of the second
and third place choices was also consistent with random chance; analysis
of the weights showed that there was no significant tendency for the
astrologers to be correct more often on the profiles that were rated as
strong matches for a given chart (in fact, the chart presented indicates
that the astrologers were actually correct less often on those first-place
choices they rated as 8-10 than they were on those they rated 4-6).

More details on the results and the care taken in the design of the
experiment to avoid introducing systematic biases in favor of either
hypothesis are presented in the article itself; the above is just my
summary of the highlights.  I'm cross-posting this to net.origins because
I think this article serves as a good example of the willingness of
some scientists to investigate rigorously even extraordinary claims,
** provided that such claims can be expressed in the form of a testable
hypothesis which yields predictions different from those that would be
expected under prevailing scientific theories **.  The astrologers were
able to bring their claims within the domain of science by casting them
in such a form, and were given a reasonable opportunity to demonstrate
these claims.  They failed the test, but had they succeeded, I believe
(and I think most scientists out there would agree) that they would have
been taken very seriously indeed by the scientific community.  If and when
creationists are able to cast their claims in such a form, they too
will merit serious scientific scrutiny.  Further discussion of this point
should go to net.origins only.

I don't believe that this article made the pages of Nature and got the
attention it has solely because it discredits astrology: most such
articles would probably be considered irrelevant by the editors.  Rather,
I believe that it merits inclusion in those pages because of the
the care the experimenters took to ensure that what they were testing
was astrologers' concept of astrology, not just scientists' concept
of astrology, and the rigor with which they ensured that the results
would be scientifically valid, regardless of the outcome.

Dave Wallace	(...!ucbvax!wallace	wallace@ucbkim.berkeley.edu)