[net.med] Self diagnosis.

minow@decvax.UUCP (Martin Minow) (01/26/86)

In article <355@cuuxb>, cuuxb!frye writes

Reply-To: minow@decvax.UUCP (Martin minow)
Organization: DEC - ULTRIX Engineering Group

In article <355@cuuxb>, cuuxb!frye (Tom Frye) writes

  >You'd think a fire chief who'd been through quite a bit of paramedic
  >training (he had) would know enough to look into something abnormal.

Not a good assumption.  After my brother finished medical school,
including a post-doc doing cancer research, he went in for his Air
Force physical (he studied under a sholarship program which committed
him to do military service).  After the physical, the examining doctor
asked him "Doctor, do you know why you have a 15% hearing loss in one ear?"

To make a long story short, it was a brain tumor, successfully operated
on.  (The cause is believed to be X-ray treatments he had as a child
for tonsellitus -- perhaps Craig could explain more.)  18 years later,
he can explain to his patients that cancer can be cured.

However, I doubt that he would recommend self-diagnosis.

Martin Minow
decvax!minow

frye@cuuxb.UUCP (frye) (01/28/86)

I don't really like the idea of self diagnisis either. I was
just thinking that the firechief with a lot of training would
be more tempted to go see a medicine man that your average guy
on the street. Roger had probably seen a few people who'd just
let things go 'til they'd become critical before. I doubt he
would have done that. So, I just kinda figure he must have felt 
in fine shape...


Something I learned a little while back that I had no idea of
'til then: Someone told me that M.S. could be linked to the fact
that there was a dog or cat around that had distemper when the
M.S. victim was a kid. I was surprized to find out that distemper
can mess up the human wiring harness like that. If what I heard
was true, that means people should made damned sure their pets 
are in good health and stay away from strange animals. I knew
a lady who'd take in every wounded critter she found. They'd very
rarely make it, but she'd try. She had some pet hampsteres that
ended up dying after she brought home a sick raccoon. Once I saw
that, I decided to just whack 'em with a shovel or something and
bury them when I found a sick critter. Don't want to take home
no wierd illnesses...

Any truth to the story I heard about distemper causing M.S. and
its typical insulation breakdown? (I had a big power supply that
came down with a problem like that in its cable loom(8-).)



Thanks,

Tom Frye

werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) (01/28/86)

	Despite the invitation, I won't comment on the rest.

I just want to add the following comment by Sir William Osler:
 	"Any physician who treats himself has a fool for a patient."
-- 

				Craig Werner
				!philabs!aecom!werner
               "Time flies when you're streaking out N. gonorrheae." 

elliot@well.UUCP (Elliot Fabric) (01/31/86)

I have heard anecdotal reports of MS patients moving from
cold/dry climes to warm/humid ones with remarkable improvement.
Specifically moving from Northeast to Southern Florida.
Is there any mechanism to explain this if true?

doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) (01/31/86)

> just thinking that the firechief with a lot of training would
> be more tempted to go see a medicine man that your average guy
> on the street. Roger had probably seen a few people who'd just
> let things go 'til they'd become critical before. I doubt he
> would have done that.

Something to keep in mind... it's possible that he knew that he had a
problem, but didn't go to a doctor because if he went to a doctor he
might lose his job.  He might have been hoping that the problem would go
away on its own.

The inhibiting influence doesn't even need to be as powerful as losing
one's job.  One of my hobbies is flying.  The FAA requires that pilots
have a physical exam by an official Airman Medical Examiner every two
years (more frequently for commercial pilots).  At that time I have to
report every visit to a doctor or hospital, including the purpose and
the outcome.  It sometimes seems that almost any medical condition has
become cause for permanent grounding.  I assure you that I do not rush
off to see a doctor just because I'm not feeling well -- I wait until
I'm convinced either that the problem requires immediate attention or
that it won't get better by itself.  (I ground myself during that time.)
-- 
Doug Pardee -- CalComp -- {hardy,savax,seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!terak!doug