[net.med] Injured feet & varying medical advice

jed@twitch.UUCP ( J.Dail) (02/27/86)

About 5 weeks ago, I fell and injured both feet.  They
ended up underneath me.  I went to a hospital and they
Xrayed one foot and decided that I had over-extended a
muscle on the top of the foot, pulling away a small chip
of bone (<1/4 inch).  The emergency room physician was
not an orthopedic expert, but told me of the chip and
suggested that I see an orthopedic surgeon.

One was called and showed up two hours later, after
at least one more call by the emergency room personnel.
I don't know his problem, but he was not willing to
discuss treatment alternatives and ikely outcomes.
He suggested that the foot be placed in a cast.  Because
of his hostile attitude, unwillingness to answer questions,
and the delay he caused me sitting with an ice pack for
hours, I decided to get a second opinion.  I requested
and received copies of the X rays and arranged to see
an Orthopedic surgeon, who was referred by the Emergency
Room.

The second doctor reviewed the X-ray and agreed that a
small piece of bone had been pulled away by the muscle.
His recommendation for treatment was entirely different,
suggesting that exercise would be required once the
swelling had subsided.  He did not agree to placing the
foot in a cast.

I now had two pieces of conflicting medical advice and
two very sore feet.  Not wanting to have a cast in the first
place, I sided with the second doctor.  Needless to say,
I am still concerned who was right and both feet still
hurt though I am able to walk.

The second foot which was also injured is another story,
which because of length I will omit here.

My questions to any who have knowledge or experience in
these problems are:
	How will this separated muscle/bone chip be able
	to reattach if it is continually being moved during
	walking, standing, or just moving my feet?

	How long should it take to heal?

	Should I be exercising now to strengthen the injured
	area or should I try to keep pressure off it?  I was
	using a cane, but the doctor suggested I stop after
	two weeks.

	Should I get a third medical opinion, since the two
		Orthopedists disagree about treatment?

Thanks for the information, if anyone can offer help.

john@ur-tut.UUCP (John Gurian) (03/02/86)

> About 5 weeks ago, I fell and injured both feet.  They
> ended up underneath me.  I went to a hospital and they
> Xrayed one foot and decided that I had over-extended a
> muscle on the top of the foot, pulling away a small chip
> of bone (<1/4 inch).  The emergency room physician was
> not an orthopedic expert, but told me of the chip and
> suggested that I see an orthopedic surgeon.
> 

Sounds like you sustained an "avulsion fracture" where the bone is pulled
off (avulsed) by the connecting tendon.  Usually, it's not that big a deal;
the bone chip avulsed is usually just reabsorbed and the tendon will heal
on its own.  It will probably take a few weeks, depending on how much of
the tendon was left attached to the bone - usually only a small portion
is avulsed.  You should probably take the advice of the second orthopod,
as his management seems more prudent - remember, primum non nocere, and
as the book "House of God" pointed out, "Do as much nothing as possible"
is usually the safest treatment for most medical conditions.  Usually,
pain is a pretty good indicator of how much you can walk on it.
	If you look at the X-ray yourself, you can probably see a small
white "density", as it's called, sitting in the dark joint space between
the two bones.  I'd still be demanding answers from the orthopod that's
following you on the indications for the two differing management plans.

Remember the old adage: "To be an orthopedic surgeon, you have to be as
strong as an ox, and at least as smart as one".

-- 

-- John Gurian
-- !rochester!ur-tut!john

jin@hropus.UUCP (Jear Bear) (03/04/86)

If you really want to be confused see a Podiatrist :-> .
Seriously, a Podiatrist specializing in Sports Medicine (and I'm not
sure if there is a formal specialization procedure) may give you, or
others, an alternative view to the "Orthopods".  Check with your local
runner's clubs for recommendations.
-- 
			Jerry Natowitz
			ihnp4!houxm!hropus!jin
			The Master Baker