[net.graphics] On coloring B&W films

norskog (04/02/83)

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fortune!norskog    Apr  1 17:30:00 1983

Black&white films were meant to be seen b&w.
The cinematography was usually very carefully designed
to evoke emotion and create a mood.
Coloring them is a gross insult.

The system mentioned is very slick, you color in one image 
at the beginning of a sequence, and it processes subsequent
frames automatically, by identifying shapes and following their motion.

A much better use of the necessary computer time 
would be to touch up print damage.

				Lance Norskog
				Fortune Systems
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elf (04/04/83)

Ah, gimme a break, all you aesthetes out there.  I just want some information,
the more specific, the better (like addresses or phone numbers of companies
involved).  I don't deny that many b&w movies will (and should) remain b&w.
(Non-portable programs due to machine or device dependence would be a crude
analogy to this situation.)  But let's be realistic.  You can't tell me that
sophisticated and evocative lighting techniques were used for Laurel and
Hardy movies.  I agree that using a system to repair print damage would also
be productive, perhaps even more so.

	Eugene Fiume
	U of Toronto
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norskog (04/06/83)

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fortune!norskog    Apr  5 16:58:00 1983

A big part of what Laurel & Hardy are all about is the contrast between
their body shapes.  Colored in, this would not be so noticeable,
because you would be distracted by the color information.

When a good filmmaker makes a black and white movie, 
every choice he makes is influenced by this fact.
If such a film is colored in, all bets are off.

urban (04/07/83)

Not all "black and white" movies were necessarily intended that
way.  Silent films, in particular, were sometimes shot in black
and white because that was the only technology available, and
then HAND-COLORED by an artist for display (the economics of
the 1910s is amazing, isn't it?).

	Mike