[net.emacs] GNU Emacs Manual

vijay@topaz.ARPA (P. Vijay) (07/26/85)

	As all of you know, GNU Emacs Manual was released as a  set of
files to be processed with TeX. Since, at the time of  release, we did
not have TeX  installed in our system,  I converted the  files so that
they could  be  processed  using Scribe (Version  4), the license  for
which we have. This has the following advantages.

	* For sites that have only Scribe and no TeX, this is the only
way to have a readable version of the GNU Emacs manual.

	* While it is true that TeX  is available to the public  free,
as far as I know there is, as yet, no laser printer available for free
(:-)) that will produce printed copies of the TeX sources.  Because of
the design  philosophy  involved in  TeX  (the output of  TeX  must be
identical, irrespective  of the output  device), there is  no   device
driver to produce processed output from TeX to devices like  terminals
and ordinary  line printers that  have only one font,  which  is fixed
width.  Whereas, Scribe does have a driver  for dumb printing  devices
like ttys and lpts.

	*   I also like  to  have the manual  on-line,  so  that I can
consult it inside Emacs.

	I have converted emacs.tex   and ggloss.tex  to  corresponding
.mss  files that can  be used with  Scribe, Version  4  (probably even
earlier versions). This message is a query to find out if anyone would
want  this.  If there are  sufficient responses,  I'll  put the scribe
sources and the scribe output for dumb devices, in a centrally located
site. If mit-prep would  agree to having  these  files available, that
would be the ideal location. Please respond in  mail to me,  so that I
can condense the responses and post in net.emacs.

							--Vijay--

dennis@epson.UUCP (Dennis Chen) (07/27/85)

We just got Gnuemacs 16.56 this week.
Is there other way to print out the emacs manual from the distributed
gnuemacs/man/emacs.??? tex format files without Tex program which 
mentioned in the gnuemacs/man/READ_ME ?  (We don't have Tex software and
any fancy laser printer yet)

		Thanks
			
		_Dennis, ...!{sun,spar,turtlevax,wdl1}!epson!dennis

				

tooch@avsdS.UUCP (Michael J. Tuciarone) (07/29/85)

I am eagerly looking forward to  Mr.  Stallman's  nicely  printed
GNUmacs  manual.  Unfortunately,  I  don't have any documentation
till then, since we don't have TeX running here. Is there  anyone
out there:

     1. who has converted the documentation to  n/troffable  for-
        mat?  I  have  access to a typesetter, and I would really
        love to be able to read the manual.  Or,  if  the  manual
        can't be troffed, could someone explain to poor benighted
        me why not?

     2. who could direct me to a source for TeX? I understand  it
        is in the public domain, or is at least freely available.
        Is this so?

     3. who could be persuaded to process the  manual  and,  say,
        xerox  [ahem] photocopy the pages, or dump them to a tape
        as is, or something?  (You're all very clever out  there.
        Can you figure out a way to help me get what I want?)

Please reply via mail...etc. Thanks in advance.

Mike Tuciarone
...{ucbvax, hplabs}!atd!tooch@avsdS
Ampex Corporation/401 Broadway MS 3-55/Redwood City CA 94063
415-367-2477 & keep trying...

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