[net.decus] Calling all Software Tools Users

jr@wlcrjs.UUCP (Jim Rosenberg) (02/18/85)

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Is anyone out there using Software Tools under VMS?  Any interest in a
newsgroup for net.stug?  It seems worthy to me, but I'm not sure if there
would be enough traffic.  Would anyone subscribe?

I've had a serious problem with the shell under VMS 4.  We can't get it to
do anything in the background.  When given a command that ends with '&',
the current shell spawns a shell to run the command successfully, and that
shell is properly running with DETACH priv (the shell is installed with
DETACH and CMECEX priv as per instructions) but this shell seems completely
unable to spawn anything.  The command

echo foobar >fuzz ?flooey &

will not even get as far as creating fuzz or flooey -- and the broadcast
message will come back that the command terminated successfully.  Anyone
run into this?  Are we missing something in how the shell needs to be
installed under VMS 4?  Any help would be appreciated.

Please send replies uucp-mail if possible -- I may not be able to get mail
from this site.

-Thanks, Jim Rosenberg
 {decvax!idis,allegra}!pitt!amanuen!jr

biggers@topaz.ARPA (Mark Biggers) (02/21/85)

> Is anyone out there using Software Tools under VMS?  Any interest in a
> newsgroup for net.stug?  It seems worthy to me, but I'm not sure if there
> would be enough traffic.  Would anyone subscribe?
> 

Yes, I would be very interested in a net.stug, and am surprised that
there is no such group on usenet.  Perhaps someone can forward this
new newsgroup request to the appropriate group (net.news?).

I am interested in anyone attempting to get the "Toys" (yacc, lex, lisp)
STUG tape up and running - what were the experiences, etc.  Maybe
this discussion can go to a group where more people would read it?

A net.stug would be very appropriate, considering that the latest STUG
newsletter announced the demise of "official" support for progress on
standardizing the toolset.

Mark Biggers
seismo!rutopaz!biggers

tarvydas@utcsri.UUCP (Paul Tarvydas) (02/27/85)

Yes, I would certainly subscribe to a STUG tools newsgroup.

As an aside: I've finally had some success in bringing up yacc and lex
from the toys tape, but I haven't used them much.  There were at least
two problems I encountered in lex - (i) the routine "esc" seems not to
have been supplied and is NOT compatible with the standard one in the
library (it is fairly simple to create a new "esc" by looking to see
what the code expects); (ii) there were some non-standard character escape
sequences ("@^a") which caused "negative character class" error
messages.  More details on request.

I'm looking for:
a) a ratfor version of "make"
b) someone who can tell me why the shared library versions of the
   tools (using RLIBSHARE.EXE) run 2x slower than the non-shared
   versions.

Paul Tarvydas
...utcsri!tarvydas

tli@oberon.UUCP (Tony Li) (03/02/85)

> Is anyone out there using Software Tools under VMS?  Any interest in a
> newsgroup for net.stug?  It seems worthy to me, but I'm not sure if there
> would be enough traffic.  Would anyone subscribe?
> -Thanks, Jim Rosenberg
>  {decvax!idis,allegra}!pitt!amanuen!jr

Yes, some of us would be definitely interested...
-- 
Tony Li ;-)		Usc Computer Science
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ken@rochester.UUCP (Ken Yap) (03/04/85)

> Is anyone out there using Software Tools under VMS?  Any interest in a
> newsgroup for net.stug?  It seems worthy to me, but I'm not sure if there
> would be enough traffic.  Would anyone subscribe?

I would!

	Ken
-- 
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USnail:	Dept. of Comp. Sci., U. of Rochester, NY 14627. Voice: Ken!

paul@greipa.UUCP (Paul A. Vixie) (03/20/85)

I'll bite.