[net.decus] RT-11/TSX-plus and dialins

greid@adobe.UUCP (Glenn Reid) (10/23/85)

I am trying to set up a dialin line on a PDP-11/23 running TSX-plus
from across the country.  As you can imagine, it's a bit hard to debug.

With the LINDEF set up normally (i.e. without $PHONE or anything special)
I can log in fine, but when I logout, or the call terminates, or the
connection is broken in any manner, the entire system crashes right down
to the @-prompt.  When I change the LINDEF to contain a $PHONE switch,
this doesn't happen, but it logs me out after approximately ten seconds
of connect time.  It strikes me that the second method is the right one,
if I can figure out how to keep from getting logged out.

Is there something special I need in my LINE5.TSX file?  Does anybody
know how to deal withthis/
?
THanks.
GLenn Reid
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movshon@acf8.UUCP (J. Anthony Movshon) (10/31/85)

Sounds like you have a problem with the carrier-detect signal, either on your
modem or on your 11/23. If there's no $PHONE flag, TSX doesn't care about the
CD lines; if $PHONE is defined, and CD is not asserted, TSX will think it's
lost the carrier and log you out. Check out the hardware ...

				Tony Movshon
				movshon@nyu-acf8

ciaraldi@rochester.UUCP (Mike Ciaraldi) (11/05/85)

> 
> I am trying to set up a dialin line on a PDP-11/23 running TSX-plus
> from across the country.  As you can imagine, it's a bit hard to debug.
> 
> With the LINDEF set up normally (i.e. without $PHONE or anything special)
> I can log in fine, but when I logout, or the call terminates, or the
> connection is broken in any manner, the entire system crashes right down
> to the @-prompt.  When I change the LINDEF to contain a $PHONE switch,
> this doesn't happen, but it logs me out after approximately ten seconds
> of connect time.  It strikes me that the second method is the right one,
> if I can figure out how to keep from getting logged out.
> 
> Is there something special I need in my LINE5.TSX file?  Does anybody
> know how to deal withthis/
> ?
> THanks.
> GLenn Reid
> {decwrl,glacier,sun}!adobe!greid
> -- 
> You have new mail.

I just redid a TSX system to accept a modem, and it worked OK
(after getting help from a lot of people via net.decus).

I was using a Hayes Smartmodem 1200 connected to a DLV-11J.
I tried using the $PHONE flag and this DOES NOT work for this
configuration.  The reason is that the $PHONE flag makes TSX look for
the modem status signals which indicate that it is properly receiving
a carrier from the remote modem.  If not, it 
logs you out again.  
A DLV-11J only has connector pins for data in, data out, and ground,
so there is no way to tell it that the modem has answered the
phone.  
The only LSI-11 interface card thgat supports these
signals is, I believe, the DLV-11E, which is a single-line
serial card (the J is a four-line, non-multiplexed).

Anyway, I set the LINDEF up exactly like the other 4
lines, and also changed the macro that defines the
total number of lines.
One problem that cropped up later is that
the other lines had been set for 100-character I/O buffers
on the serial lines.  This is too small for KERMIT file transfer
(to the 11 from a PC), so we will bump iit up to 110.

Thre other thing I had to do was tell the Smartmodem not
to send result codes or echo commands, else the
characters sent (e.g. "RING" bounce back and
forth forever).

Good luck.  I hope that my recent expereince gives you
hope. I am sure that others on the net will also be glad to help you.

Mike Ciaraldi
seismo!rochester!ciaraldi